Statistics: Posted by Mars — Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:10 pm
My analogy is false, and Sandusky and JoPa are metaphorically "vacationing in Hawaii". Good to know.False analogy, but it was a nice attempt. The way the NCAA is operating, if you kill someone, your kids go to jail, because you have moved on and are vacationing in Hawaii.
Statistics: Posted by Cougarfan87 — Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:02 pm
Statistics: Posted by Mars — Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:56 pm
If I kill someone, and I go to jail, my wife and kids would likely lose their house since I lose my job and quit paying the mortgage. So, should I not go to jail for murder because that would hurt my innocent family?If a coach/player breaks an NCAA rule, the NCAA should find a way to punish that coach/player (bans from coaching in NCAA, suspensions, fines, etc.). I find the principle that children should not be punished for the sins of their fathers to be a good one. They may suffer some after effects (losing a star player or coach), but they should not be directly punished (bowl bans and loss of future scholarships).
Statistics: Posted by Cougarfan87 — Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:46 pm
Statistics: Posted by Mars — Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:37 pm
Statistics: Posted by Mars — Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:04 pm
Statistics: Posted by vancouvercougar — Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:07 am
I wondered after reading this, could the NCAA make athletes coming out of high school sign something that says they're liable to pay fines for NCAA violations they commit while in college? Even after they leave, if past violations are found the NCAA could fine that player. Same with the coaches or administrators found to be partaking.And FWIW, if the NCAA levies any sanctions tomorrow on the basis of the Freeh report or the criminal case (as opposed the NCAA's own investigation--as required by NCAA bylaws), I hope PSU sues the hell out of the NCAA.
Totally agree. I think Penn State should thumb their nose at NCAA and keep handing out scholarships. The NCAA stepped beyond their bounds here. The NCAA is reacting to poplular opinion, just like the prosecutors in Florida in the Trayvon Martin case. It is a sad day when government and quasi government organizations feel they have to weigh in heavy just because popular opinion says so. The head coach is dead, the President fired, the actual wrong doer going to prison for the rest of his life, and the name of the school tarnished. And yet the NCAA felt that wasn't enough. So let's punish student athletes that probably cannot afford college without the Grant in Aid.
I guess those future students should be punished since the administration in the past made mistakes. Absolutely ridiculous. This is a problem with the NCAA that needs to be corrected. It has got to figure out how to punish the wrong doers, not those that come after the wrong doers. It also needs to stay out of criminal matters.
Then next time a football program has a player with criminal offenses, the NCAA better poke its nose in there and administer penalties on the institution. Or maybe that is what the NCAA wanted it to do all the time, and this case establishes the precedent to do so.
Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:38 pm
I wondered after reading this, could the NCAA make athletes coming out of high school sign something that says they're liable to pay fines for NCAA violations they commit while in college? Even after they leave, if past violations are found the NCAA could fine that player. Same with the coaches or administrators found to be partaking.And FWIW, if the NCAA levies any sanctions tomorrow on the basis of the Freeh report or the criminal case (as opposed the NCAA's own investigation--as required by NCAA bylaws), I hope PSU sues the hell out of the NCAA.
Totally agree. I think Penn State should thumb their nose at NCAA and keep handing out scholarships. The NCAA stepped beyond their bounds here. The NCAA is reacting to poplular opinion, just like the prosecutors in Florida in the Trayvon Martin case. It is a sad day when government and quasi government organizations feel they have to weigh in heavy just because popular opinion says so. The head coach is dead, the President fired, the actual wrong doer going to prison for the rest of his life, and the name of the school tarnished. And yet the NCAA felt that wasn't enough. So let's punish student athletes that probably cannot afford college without the Grant in Aid.
I guess those future students should be punished since the administration in the past made mistakes. Absolutely ridiculous. This is a problem with the NCAA that needs to be corrected. It has got to figure out how to punish the wrong doers, not those that come after the wrong doers. It also needs to stay out of criminal matters.
Then next time a football program has a player with criminal offenses, the NCAA better poke its nose in there and administer penalties on the institution. Or maybe that is what the NCAA wanted it to do all the time, and this case establishes the precedent to do so.
Statistics: Posted by Wickchad — Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:54 pm