I agree for the most part, but BYU definitely "got up" for the utah game last year. They were cleary the more determined team through the first half. It didn't help though.I don't see us winning more than 9 regular season games. Could we win out? I admit it's possible. But I will believe we can beat Utah when I see it (mostly for psychological reasons and because our guys don't get up for it the way the yewts do) or a talented BCS program like ND on the road. My guess is we split GT/BSU.
Again, how is this year any different than any other BYU season? I know you dislike RN and you were fully invested in JH, but are you really going to let that ruin your excitement for BYU football?[/quote]Again, I think I'm not as excited because I don't feel like (RN should be qb)it's a year where anything can happen and our reward will be a bowl in SoCal against the #2 or #3 MWC team. I guess AFA or Nevada would be decent but certainly not ideal opponents.
Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:59 am
And Agreed.10 and 2 would be a big accomplishment this year.
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Statistics: Posted by byutx — Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:12 am
You are either blinded by Jake's Porential - even now - or by needing to be right.Yes, in that ONE game, I would agree, but not necessarily overall. Their records seem pretty equal to me. Beat up crappy teams, lose to good teams.So we agree that Riley Nelson has proved himself beyond what Jake Heaps did.I would to. Glad they made the switch.I for one will take a win at Utah State and a 10 win season over a loss and a non-bowl eligible team.
Statistics: Posted by jonnylingo — Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:12 am
They missed it. Based on workout no shows - should have seen leadership and timing issues coming. Doman was new and Bronco admits knowing little about offense. A Student of the game could have seen the new coaches having growing pains too - and Heaps had some new stuff to absorb, but had skipped workouts.I'm interested to know why you think I wouldnt want to watch all 13 games. I will. Decked out all in blue with my game day themed tailgate food for every game. I will watch the prevalence show, listen to the call in show after the games just like every year. I will cheer the highs and be bummed at the lows. Just maybe not as bummed as I would've been in years pastJoe Glenn salute or not - this season could be a blessing in disguise for you. Less of a roller coaster ride emotionally. Less of a crash from the steep fall. Just watch those two games. Surely none of the others will be close and interesting and full of drama. And surely there won't be any amazing plays to watch or personal achievements to follow.For this year, yes my excitement has been damaged. For me it has been a perfect storm of football schedule, conference afiliation, off the field mess and also being very busy at work. I'm just not as excited about the season. It is what it is.I think the off the field stuff has been hashed apart and no one really knows anything. Certainly lots of fiery opinions out there about how things have played out though. So when these "leaders" graduate and BYU goes back to wondering where to get leadership you'll be more excited?I won't dwell on the off the field stuff, suffice it to say I'll be happy when certain "leaders" graduate.Not much different from any other year for BYU football, or anyU college team really. There are gimme games and games you should win and a couple that will be toss ups. It sounds like you've just tempered expectations a little.As far as certainty, I just don't think it's the kind of year where anything can happen. I don't think we have much of a chance to bust the BCS. Furthermore, I think we go into all but 1 or 2 games knowing the outcome. The games I think we will win I don't think I have much doubt about and the same goes for the ones I think we will lose.I agree for the most part, but BYU definitely "got up" for the utah game last year. They were cleary the more determined team through the first half. It didn't help though.I don't see us winning more than 9 regular season games. Could we win out? I admit it's possible. But I will believe we can beat Utah when I see it (mostly for psychological reasons and because our guys don't get up for it the way the yewts do) or a talented BCS program like ND on the road. My guess is we split GT/BSU.Again, how is this year any different than any other BYU season? I know you dislike RN and you were fully invested in JH, but are you really going to let that ruin your excitement for BYU football?Again, I think I'm not as excited because I don't feel like (RN should be qb)it's a year where anything can happen and our reward will be a bowl in SoCal against the #2 or #3 MWC team. I guess AFA or Nevada would be decent but certainly not ideal opponents.
To answer your question, I can't think of a year where I felt more confident that I knew the outcome going into the season. For instance, going into the season last year, IIRC, I wasn't sure of the outcome of Ole Miss, Texas, Utah and UCF. I was farily certain we would lose to TCU but still had my hopes up we could pull it off. I think the newness of Indy was also exciting.
Again - I expect 8-9 wins including the Bowl game - just like you do. Sucks to be you, because I expect to have a lot of fun watching it unfold and hoping for some miracle to give BYU that coveted 10 win season.
I hope Riley Nelson has a great season and makes you wallow in every minute of it - but I agree - something more ordinary is more likely.
No Heisman or anything resembling that. Just a guy from a small town playing his heart out for the Blue and White as the team continues to bounce back from 2010 and the first half of 2011.
I am shocked that you were more excited about that period in history - any student of the game not blinded by hype could have seen that coming and it was often not fun to watch.
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And as for who is for blame at hype from the past, look no further than coach mendenhall who said last years team at the end Of camp was the most prepared team he had ever had at that juncture in the year. If you recall, they ended camp quite a bit early, including a couple extra days off. But perhaps you mean to say that bronco and Brandon doman aren't students of the game.
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Statistics: Posted by byutx — Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:10 am
Agreed. I think we're going to have a very special year.Well, this thread has taken an interesting turn - it starts out with my declaration that this will be a special season for BYU football - and now it has disintegrated into an argument about whether Riley or Riley (as in..Nelson or Stephenson) are to blame for the loss at TCU last year, and whether or not the Utah State win last year was a good win or not.
Allow me to get us back on track:
I'm TELLING You guys - this is going to be a kick ASS year for BYU football.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - THIS IS OUR YEAR.
I'd say I'm already booking my ticket to Phoenix in January...but I already live here, so no need!
Statistics: Posted by hawkwing — Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:01 am