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Re: Oregon

2014-03-28T02:28:36-06:00

In the second half of the Gonzaga game, and for the entire Oregon game, BYU needed points, needed a lot of them, and needed them in a hurry.

I don't understand why BYU fans are upset that Carlino tried to do that. Who did they expect to try and step up and get us back in the Gonzaga game and replace KC's scoring against Oregon? Frank Bartley?
Post of the year nominee.

Most of Carlino's shots weren't rushed, or out of place. He took good shots when no one else was looking to score, and tried to make something out of nothing. When Haws does the same thing he doesn't get slammed, and Haws takes much worse shots while contested than Carlino.

Compare Haws and Carlino FG shooting percentages, 3 Point shooting percentages, Free Trow shooting percentages, points scored - basically anything to do with shooting and you will see why Carlino takes more heat for poor shooting and poor shot selection. But maybe you are right. Maybe his shot selection was good and he just plain can''t shoot. Gotta be poor selection or poor shooting or both.

Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:28 am

Re: Oregon

2014-03-27T21:16:21-06:00

IMO Carlino isn't even streaky as a player. Not shooting-wise at least. When he's at his best he's making great passes and passing people into open spots. When he's chucking he kills the team's momentum because he's just not that good. But yes, he probably gets more criticism because he's a leader and actually has skill. Besides him who actually handles the ball and can shoot? He's all we've got in that department unfortunately.

My hope is that next year he spends the majority of his time driving and dishing to Chatman, Fischer, and Haws. He'll be a much better player if we actually have some outside shooting. It's a miracle this team went as far as it did with literally no outside threats but Haws.

Statistics: Posted by mizzoucoug — Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:16 pm

Re: Oregon

2014-03-27T21:05:20-06:00

Almost as dumb as being down 20 and running an offense to the end of the shot clock and having the ball in austin/Mika/Sharp's hands 15 feet from the basket and having to heave up a desperation shot.
My problem with Carlino is that he did the same thing down 3 as he did down 20. No awareness.
Yep.
I actually get that some players are streaky. When Carlino is on fire it's amazing. When he's not, it's well amazing in a different way. Playing within one's self is a talent and MC has not acquired it yet.
Neither has anyone else wearing a Cougar jersey.

I get bugged because people act like Carlino is the main problem, when he is normally far from it.

I get bugged when people think Carlino is the greatest thing since sliced bread. He's not that great. He's not bad and he's not the cause of the cougar struggles, but he isn't the answer.

Statistics: Posted by BoiseBYU — Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:05 pm

Re: Oregon

2014-03-27T13:16:59-06:00

In the second half of the Gonzaga game, and for the entire Oregon game, BYU needed points, needed a lot of them, and needed them in a hurry.

I don't understand why BYU fans are upset that Carlino tried to do that. Who did they expect to try and step up and get us back in the Gonzaga game and replace KC's scoring against Oregon? Frank Bartley?

Post of the year nominee.

Most of Carlino's shots weren't rushed, or out of place. He took good shots when no one else was looking to score, and tried to make something out of nothing. When Haws does the same thing he doesn't get slammed, and Haws takes much worse shots while contested than Carlino.

Statistics: Posted by Brayden Green — Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:16 pm

Re: Oregon

2014-03-27T12:46:50-06:00

MC is the whipping boy for fans' frustrations. Nevermind he'll go down 2nd all time in assists and quite possibly in the Top 15 all time in scoring. Ya, what a horrible player...
On the Gonzaga forums, they openly pray that Matt Carlino will play for BYU forever, to keep our Cougars from ever winning a conference championship. It's all BYU fans' fault though, not MC's.
Tavenari scored quite a bit too. If you shoot enough, it happens - even if the % is disappointing. Carlino has a decent percentage on open shots in rhythm and range. It is the ill advised shots that drag him down. There are many positives about Matt Carlino. He deserves his scholarship. He deserves his minutes. I would rather see him shoot better by eliminating low percentage shots. I have no idea why his free throw shooting is below average for a guard. He is not horrible - 3rd or 4th best player on the team.

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I wish Carlino were as good a shooter as Tavernari.

3pt shooting
FR
Carlino 41-123 (.333)
Tavernari 29-78 (.372)

SO
Carlino 56-167 (.335)
Tavernari 88-234 (.376)

Junior Year
Carlino 61-174 (.351)
Tavernari 85-223 (.381)

SR
Tavernari 63-163 (.387)

Career
Carlino 158-464 (.341)
Tavernari 265-698 (.380)

Statistics: Posted by SpiffCoug — Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:46 pm

Re: Oregon

2014-03-27T10:59:11-06:00

MC is the whipping boy for fans' frustrations. Nevermind he'll go down 2nd all time in assists and quite possibly in the Top 15 all time in scoring. Ya, what a horrible player...
On the Gonzaga forums, they openly pray that Matt Carlino will play for BYU forever, to keep our Cougars from ever winning a conference championship. It's all BYU fans' fault though, not MC's.

On Ute forums they sacrifice virgins (a rare commodity there) to their fallen idols that Bronco will stay the BYU coach so that BYU will never beat the Utes ever again.

What is your point?

Statistics: Posted by Brayden Green — Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:59 am

Re: Oregon

2014-03-26T23:00:57-06:00

MC is the whipping boy for fans' frustrations. Nevermind he'll go down 2nd all time in assists and quite possibly in the Top 15 all time in scoring. Ya, what a horrible player...
On the Gonzaga forums, they openly pray that Matt Carlino will play for BYU forever, to keep our Cougars from ever winning a conference championship. It's all BYU fans' fault though, not MC's.

Tavenari scored quite a bit too. If you shoot enough, it happens - even if the % is disappointing. Carlino has a decent percentage on open shots in rhythm and range. It is the ill advised shots that drag him down. There are many positives about Matt Carlino. He deserves his scholarship. He deserves his minutes. I would rather see him shoot better by eliminating low percentage shots. I have no idea why his free throw shooting is below average for a guard. He is not horrible - 3rd or 4th best player on the team.

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Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:00 pm

Re: Oregon

2014-03-26T22:47:19-06:00

MC is the whipping boy for fans' frustrations. Nevermind he'll go down 2nd all time in assists and quite possibly in the Top 15 all time in scoring. Ya, what a horrible player...

On the Gonzaga forums, they openly pray that Matt Carlino will play for BYU forever, to keep our Cougars from ever winning a conference championship. It's all BYU fans' fault though, not MC's.

Statistics: Posted by Mars — Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:47 pm

Re: Oregon

2014-03-26T20:59:05-06:00

Almost as dumb as being down 20 and running an offense to the end of the shot clock and having the ball in austin/Mika/Sharp's hands 15 feet from the basket and having to heave up a desperation shot.
My problem with Carlino is that he did the same thing down 3 as he did down 20. No awareness.
Yep.
I actually get that some players are streaky. When Carlino is on fire it's amazing. When he's not, it's well amazing in a different way. Playing within one's self is a talent and MC has not acquired it yet.
Neither has anyone else wearing a Cougar jersey.

I get bugged because people act like Carlino is the main problem, when he is normally far from it.

MC is the whipping boy for fans' frustrations.

Nevermind he'll go down 2nd all time in assists and quite possibly in the Top 15 all time in scoring. Ya, what a horrible player...

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Statistics: Posted by Gunk — Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:59 pm

Re: Oregon

2014-03-26T20:29:16-06:00

Almost as dumb as being down 20 and running an offense to the end of the shot clock and having the ball in austin/Mika/Sharp's hands 15 feet from the basket and having to heave up a desperation shot.
My problem with Carlino is that he did the same thing down 3 as he did down 20. No awareness.
Yep.
I actually get that some players are streaky. When Carlino is on fire it's amazing. When he's not, it's well amazing in a different way. Playing within one's self is a talent and MC has not acquired it yet.

Neither has anyone else wearing a Cougar jersey.

I get bugged because people act like Carlino is the main problem, when he is normally far from it.

Statistics: Posted by Brayden Green — Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:29 pm