Remember TCU in 06? Did they have a good defense? Remember John Beck standing behind a very good offensive line carving up that defense like a thanksgiving turkey with 2 very badly sprained ankles? Yeah, me too. A good Oline can block just as good against good defenses as it can against bad ones.No. I was implying that it is not sound to assume that TH as a junior will hit 147 PER simply because some of our best passers ever hit 147 as juniors.
I actually agree that his PER is going to be much better even if he and the OL do not improve a lick, because the OL, if you look back or forward, looks much better vs mid major and BCS bottom feeders than they look vs good defenses. And in 2014, the opposing defenses will be more generous. Layer some real improvement on top of that gift and 135 PER is quite likely.
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Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:04 am
Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:48 am
Possibly no one. This could be the first season since 2009 that we have more than half our games reaching the standard.Write it down. Ignoring the Bowl Game next year - who other than Texas, UCF, and Boise State are going to hold BYU below 135?
Statistics: Posted by SpiffCoug — Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:06 pm
I've also made a dozen posts about our recievers last year who were soft and wouldn't fight for balls (other than Hoffman). I am aware that there are a lot of other things that need to improve. You on the other hand change the subject back to the schedule no matter what the original thought was. Now, about the Oline. Why don't you go back and listen to interviews from most all of our coaches and players over the last few months and see what their answer to the #1 thing that needs improved when asked....all of them said Oline. (when referencing the team, not themselves.)Go back and read exactly what you wrote. One dimensional. Really. You have made about a dozen posts in 2014 that sound like a broken record about the OL. Yes. OL matters. A dozen other things matter too. Now go reconcile how the same OL produced outstanding PER vs 6 or 7 teams and pathetic PER vs the other 6 teams. Hint: answer is not OL. It was the same OL.I'm not the one struggling with the concept of a good offensive line here. You are a one issue voter cougarbib. To you nothing matters except playing a cake schedule. You attribute every win and loss to either a good opponent or a bad one. My statement about a good offensive line being able to block against a good defense was not to say that a good defense wouldn't win some of the battles. It does imply that a good offensive line will make the difference between success and failure against a good defense the same as it would make the difference between success and failure against a bad defense. Of course when a good offensive line goes up against a bad defense it is easier to succeed."Just as good against good defenses as it can against bad ones". Really? Just as good? You must wonder then why coaches waste a lick of time and effort recruiting good defensive players and good defensive coaches when it really makes no difference.Remember TCU in 06? Did they have a good defense? Remember John Beck standing behind a very good offensive line carving up that defense like a thanksgiving turkey with 2 very badly sprained ankles? Yeah, me too. A good Oline can block just as good against good defenses as it can against bad ones.No. I was implying that it is not sound to assume that TH as a junior will hit 147 PER simply because some of our best passers ever hit 147 as juniors.
I actually agree that his PER is going to be much better even if he and the OL do not improve a lick, because the OL, if you look back or forward, looks much better vs mid major and BCS bottom feeders than they look vs good defenses. And in 2014, the opposing defenses will be more generous. Layer some real improvement on top of that gift and 135 PER is quite likely.
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The is about as logical as it would be to claim that a bad OL can block just as well as a good OL.
If you are struggling with these concepts just cut and paste stats from last year with the bad OL we had all year, and calculate PER for every game. Expect to see some significant swings. Same OL. Same QB. Different defenses.
Calculate our PER excluding Utah, VA, ND, Wisconsin, and Washington. Expect to see that PER or better in 2014 because the SOS will be comparable to that.
Then, just for fun, calculate our PER in those 5 losses. SOS matters. That was my bet.
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Further, everyone in the world knows that a good OL is better than a bad OL. Substitute any other position in that sentence. Equally true. Equally true - SOS also matters.
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Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:48 pm
Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:33 pm
Go back and read exactly what you wrote. One dimensional. Really. You have made about a dozen posts in 2014 that sound like a broken record about the OL. Yes. OL matters. A dozen other things matter too. Now go reconcile how the same OL produced outstanding PER vs 6 or 7 teams and pathetic PER vs the other 6 teams. Hint: answer is not OL. It was the same OL.I'm not the one struggling with the concept of a good offensive line here. You are a one issue voter cougarbib. To you nothing matters except playing a cake schedule. You attribute every win and loss to either a good opponent or a bad one. My statement about a good offensive line being able to block against a good defense was not to say that a good defense wouldn't win some of the battles. It does imply that a good offensive line will make the difference between success and failure against a good defense the same as it would make the difference between success and failure against a bad defense. Of course when a good offensive line goes up against a bad defense it is easier to succeed."Just as good against good defenses as it can against bad ones". Really? Just as good? You must wonder then why coaches waste a lick of time and effort recruiting good defensive players and good defensive coaches when it really makes no difference.Remember TCU in 06? Did they have a good defense? Remember John Beck standing behind a very good offensive line carving up that defense like a thanksgiving turkey with 2 very badly sprained ankles? Yeah, me too. A good Oline can block just as good against good defenses as it can against bad ones.No. I was implying that it is not sound to assume that TH as a junior will hit 147 PER simply because some of our best passers ever hit 147 as juniors.
I actually agree that his PER is going to be much better even if he and the OL do not improve a lick, because the OL, if you look back or forward, looks much better vs mid major and BCS bottom feeders than they look vs good defenses. And in 2014, the opposing defenses will be more generous. Layer some real improvement on top of that gift and 135 PER is quite likely.
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The is about as logical as it would be to claim that a bad OL can block just as well as a good OL.
If you are struggling with these concepts just cut and paste stats from last year with the bad OL we had all year, and calculate PER for every game. Expect to see some significant swings. Same OL. Same QB. Different defenses.
Calculate our PER excluding Utah, VA, ND, Wisconsin, and Washington. Expect to see that PER or better in 2014 because the SOS will be comparable to that.
Then, just for fun, calculate our PER in those 5 losses. SOS matters. That was my bet.
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Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:25 am
I'm not the one struggling with the concept of a good offensive line here. You are a one issue voter cougarbib. To you nothing matters except playing a cake schedule. You attribute every win and loss to either a good opponent or a bad one. My statement about a good offensive line being able to block against a good defense was not to say that a good defense wouldn't win some of the battles. It does imply that a good offensive line will make the difference between success and failure against a good defense the same as it would make the difference between success and failure against a bad defense. Of course when a good offensive line goes up against a bad defense it is easier to succeed."Just as good against good defenses as it can against bad ones". Really? Just as good? You must wonder then why coaches waste a lick of time and effort recruiting good defensive players and good defensive coaches when it really makes no difference.Remember TCU in 06? Did they have a good defense? Remember John Beck standing behind a very good offensive line carving up that defense like a thanksgiving turkey with 2 very badly sprained ankles? Yeah, me too. A good Oline can block just as good against good defenses as it can against bad ones.No. I was implying that it is not sound to assume that TH as a junior will hit 147 PER simply because some of our best passers ever hit 147 as juniors.
I actually agree that his PER is going to be much better even if he and the OL do not improve a lick, because the OL, if you look back or forward, looks much better vs mid major and BCS bottom feeders than they look vs good defenses. And in 2014, the opposing defenses will be more generous. Layer some real improvement on top of that gift and 135 PER is quite likely.
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The is about as logical as it would be to claim that a bad OL can block just as well as a good OL.
If you are struggling with these concepts just cut and paste stats from last year with the bad OL we had all year, and calculate PER for every game. Expect to see some significant swings. Same OL. Same QB. Different defenses.
Calculate our PER excluding Utah, VA, ND, Wisconsin, and Washington. Expect to see that PER or better in 2014 because the SOS will be comparable to that.
Then, just for fun, calculate our PER in those 5 losses. SOS matters. That was my bet.
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Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:54 pm
Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:10 pm