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Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-31T01:24:27-06:00

I don't think Obama takes it in '08 without voter fraud, but that's just me.

With ya 3,000%. Obama would not have been elected pres. in 2008 without voter fraud in Indiana.

An interesting read -
Election Fraud in the 2008 Indiana Presidential Campaign: A Case Study in Corruption
By Hans A. von Spakovsky

Fraud
The allegations of electoral fraud first emerged in 2011 when a Yale University undergraduate student looked through the signatures of the petitions that were filed with Indiana election officials to get Barack Obama qualified for the Indiana Democratic primary ballot.[17] Ryan Nees, a former Obama White House intern, pored through the “byzantine and complicated” petition signatures.[18] Page after page of the voter names and signatures in St. Joseph County turned out to be complete forgeries.[19]

Nees said the fraud was easy to detect “because page after page of signatures are all in the same handwriting.” A close inspection also revealed their similarity to signatures from a petition for a previous gubernatorial election. Even worse, some of the names appeared on the list several times.

http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... corruption" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Statistics: Posted by Ddawg — Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:24 am

Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-30T23:34:02-06:00

Polls show that if he and Obama ran today, that Romney would win.
Unfortunately, polls show that he'd lose to Hillary. In fact, all Republicans would lose to Hillary.

I don't know how or why, but it appears as though she will be our next president.

This seems to mirror the whole shrug our shoulders and give up attitude that the GOP has had lately. I don't think Obama takes it in '08 without voter fraud, but that's just me. Anyone opposed to socialism needs to vote for whomever is opposing Hillary instead of throwing their votes to third party individuals; our country can't take four to eight more years of communist manifesto-driven politics.

Statistics: Posted by Schmoe — Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:34 pm

Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-30T23:11:07-06:00

Polls show that if he and Obama ran today, that Romney would win.
Unfortunately, polls show that he'd lose to Hillary. In fact, all Republicans would lose to Hillary.

I don't know how or why, but it appears as though she will be our next president.

seems to be the exact conversation we were having in 2008, doesn't it?

Statistics: Posted by BroncoBot — Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:11 pm

Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-30T16:09:27-06:00

Polls show that if he and Obama ran today, that Romney would win.

Unfortunately, polls show that he'd lose to Hillary. In fact, all Republicans would lose to Hillary.

I don't know how or why, but it appears as though she will be our next president.

Statistics: Posted by stuckinbig10country — Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:09 pm

Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-30T15:04:19-06:00

Polls show that if he and Obama ran today, that Romney would win.

Statistics: Posted by scott715 — Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:04 pm

Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-30T13:53:15-06:00

I forgot to answer the OP. Romney is already campaigning/running for the nomination in 2016. I think the odds are long (10-15% of winning the nomination).

As for political donations, they go to the heart of the very corrupt government we have. Whether a thing is legal or not does not make it moral. If you donate to someone to get more loot from government contracts (whether those are defense contracts or food stamps) there is no difference between that and a bribe. Buying another politician's endorsement - well - you can decide for yourself what that is.

Regardless of what you want to call Romney's money handouts to politicians in NH they are still going on. And if he can't turn those dollars into convincing win a small state in the Northeast, he's done.

The biggest problem with Romney in terms of a general election is that he doesn't excite anyone. The evangelicals aren't going to work for him and none of the libertarian republicans will either. That's the entire grass roots of the party already written off before you even get started.

Statistics: Posted by jvquarterback — Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:53 pm

Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-30T11:37:17-06:00

http://conservativetribune.com/romneys- ... came-true/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Statistics: Posted by scott715 — Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:37 am

Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-30T09:46:48-06:00

And Mitt ....... He's bribed, er contributed to, every legislator in the state starting from the smallest municipality.
Actually - that's a jaw dropping accusation. It would be interesting to see the documentation, charges, on-going investigations, to back up such a serious charge.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/us/po ... d=all&_r=0" fast and loose." More specifically, your definition is just wrong. One is legal and sanctioned and controlled by regulations and laws, the other is not and prosecuted. One is sneaky and underhanded. The other is up front, in the open, and reported (which is exactly what Romney does).

"Difference Between Political Contribution and Bribe"

Political Contribution vs Bribe

There is an ocean of difference between a political contribution and bribe. However, some people who are getting disillusioned with modern political systems contend that the two concepts are just the same and their only difference is seven syllables.

In strict legal parlance, political contribution is sanctioned by existing statutes. In the United States, getting political contribution is a constitutional right of candidates running for public office. Bribe on the other hand is outright dirty money. The act of accepting a bribe is prohibited under the law wherever you are.

Following these basic premises, giving political contribution is a legitimate act to support a candidate, the party, or a political action committee. In contrast, a bribe is intended to corrupt good judgment and the political processes. Because of this, it is considered illegitimate and punishable.

Because a bribe is illegal and is given discreetly, there is no limit to the amount you can give. Anyone can also give or accept bribes. On the other hand, a political contribution is subject to rules and regulations mandated by Federal, state, or local statutes.

Read more: Difference Between Political Contribution and Bribe | Difference Between | Political Contribution vs Bribe http://www.differencebetween.net/busine ... z3HdxyrWMf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Statistics: Posted by Ddawg — Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:46 am

Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-30T09:21:03-06:00

Romney is the only one campaigning in NH - he's still donating to all the candidates. What I'm saying is that if he doesn't win in NH by double digits I don't think he'll win anywhere else.

Statistics: Posted by jvquarterback — Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:21 am

Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?

2014-10-29T11:47:47-06:00

And Mitt ....... He's bribed, er contributed to, every legislator in the state starting from the smallest municipality.
Actually - that's a jaw dropping accusation. It would be interesting to see the documentation, charges, on-going investigations, to back up such a serious charge.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/us/po ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just about every republican candidate in nh got money from Romney or his PAC.

So...That's what PAC's do.

You can say that about any Political Action Committee. I've worked for a company that donated to EVERY candidate in any state they had operations.

So if you feel that PAC's are just bribe money, then sure, you're claim is valid. You'd have to say the exact same thing about the PAC's set up by Obama, Reid, Soros, etc.

Statistics: Posted by stuckinbig10country — Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:47 am