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Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-10T22:05:28-06:00

Can I change mine now?

Statistics: Posted by scott715 — Tue May 10, 2016 10:05 pm

Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-10T22:02:06-06:00

With Koroma back, I'm sticking with my DL pick.

Statistics: Posted by SpiffCoug — Tue May 10, 2016 10:02 pm

Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-10T20:20:16-06:00

Biggest position group concerns for me...
Offense: Offensive Line
Defense: Yes

Statistics: Posted by Jarhead — Tue May 10, 2016 8:20 pm

Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-10T16:38:29-06:00

I think the OL will be the most-improved group, at least by perception.

The last O-lineman BYU had drafted was Scott Young....in 2005. BYU did not have a single offensive lineman drafted during the Anae/Doman/Anae years of spread, go-fast-go-hard, and nitro offenses. Why? Because the NFL doesn't want that type of offensive lineman. There are a few guys from BYU who have made it as UFAs (Matt and Dallas Reynolds, Ray Feinga), but they've done it in spite of BYU's offensive philosophy. BYU has landed solid OLine talent, but it's largely been wasted in an offense built to succeed regardless of Oline play, rather than one that demands solid Oline play.

Now BYU is returning to battle-in-the-trenches offenses, and you're actually going to see the Oline with hands in the dirt outside of the "and-goal" counts. They're going to have time to catch their breath between plays and communicate in the huddle and all the way up to the next snap. The standards of linemen benching 400# and squatting 700# may (and should) return. And most importantly, they all get to eat a lot more now that Anae/Wintrich aren't trying to turn them into track stars and they get more free food under the new NCAA regs.

It's a shiny new world for Olinemen at BYU. (and tight ends too, if we had any on the roster)

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Tue May 10, 2016 4:38 pm

Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-10T16:11:45-06:00

Concur on the concerns with the OL, but I had to go with ST, since I don't think I could even name who our kicker and punter are going to be. Maybe that is just my ignorance shining through, though.
Why did I think he had graduated?
Wishful thinking?

Or because he's not on the rugby squad this year (to focus on punting)?

Statistics: Posted by HoosierCougar — Tue May 10, 2016 4:11 pm

Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-09T15:36:06-06:00

Spring game DL starters:
48Tomasi Laulile6-4280Junior
91Travis Tuiloma6-2300Senior (foot)
62Logan Taele6-2293Senior (shoulder)
31Sae Tautu6-4246Senior **transition from LB?

DL 2's
49Moses Kaumatule6-2245Sophomore (knee)
50Tevita Mo'unga6-3340Sophomore (leaving on mission?)
94Kesni Tausinga6-1302Junior
16Sione Takitaki6-2240Junior

Depth
59Roman Andrus6-4265Sophomore
Corbin Kaufusi6-10260Sophomore
98Maurice Maxwell6-4230Senior
95Cody Savage6-6245Freshman
54Merrill Taliauli6-2312Sophomore

Swing players (LB/DL)
44Troy Hinds6-5233Sophomore
47Scott Huntsman6-4220Sophomore
51Lene Lesatele6-2231Junior

Joining in Fall
Handsome Tanielu6-2295Junior - Transfer from Snow College
Zac Dawe6-4265Freshman - Returned Missionary
Teancum Fuga6-2320Freshman - Returned Missionary
Uriah Leiataua6-4240Freshman - Returned Missionary
Felesi Tofi6-3280Freshman - Returned Missionary
Kainoa Fuiava6-5295Freshman - Class of 2016
Keanu Saleapaga6-6265Freshman - Class of 2016

Statistics: Posted by Fido — Mon May 09, 2016 3:36 pm

Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-09T14:32:05-06:00

That's the thing - it seems like we're always loaded at OL and worried about the DL, but the DL overperforms and the OL underperforms. Maybe that was a function of Bronco being great at getting more out of his guys and our OL coaches / conditioning coaches not being great at it (Hey, let's get all our O-line to drop tons of weight so they're faster, even though nobody else does that!), maybe we were bad at identifying good OL talent, maybe a mix, I don't know. But I haven't felt like we could dominate the line of scrimmage against anyone on offense since 2009. Well, unless that someone was Texas.

Statistics: Posted by redneckjedi — Mon May 09, 2016 2:32 pm

Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-09T13:11:35-06:00

OL concerns me as well. For spring, this is what the depth chart looked like:
OL starters:
71Austin Hoyt6-8270Sophomore
78Tuni Kanuch6-3330Junior
54Parker Dawe6-3295Senior
73Ului Lapuaho6-7330Junior
75Brad Wilcox6-7320Senior

Hoyt has played in 9 games with 2 starts.
Kanuch has played in 24 games with 7 starts.
Dawe has played in 12 games with 2 starts.
Lapuaho has played in 21 games with 18 starts.
Wilcox has played in 39 games with 13 starts.

That's 105 games and 42 starts (21 games & 8.4 starts on average).

On the DL you have the following:
Tomasi Laulili, JR, 6-4, 288. 25 games played with 1 start.
Logan Taele, SR, 6-2, 299. Played in 35 games with 11 starts.
Kesni Tausinga, SR, 6-1, 301.Played in 11 games.

There is one more starter to be found amongst:
Roman Andrus, SO, 6-4, 282. 1 game played (Wagner)
Moses Kaumatule, SO 6-2, 262. 7 games played.
Tevita Mo'Unga, SO, 6-2, 322. 7 games played.
Merrill Taliauli, SO, 6-2, 293. 2 games played back in 2013.
Maurice Maxwell, SR, 6-4, 260. 0 games played for BYU.
Travis Tuiloma, SR, 6-2, 301. Is injured and who knows if he'll be ready for the 2016 season.
There is also Handsome Tanielu, JR 6-2, 285 but he's not even listed on the most recent BYU roster.

It just seems like there is more returning talent on the OL than DL.

Statistics: Posted by SpiffCoug — Mon May 09, 2016 1:11 pm

Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-09T11:44:42-06:00

Concur on the concerns with the OL, but I had to go with ST, since I don't think I could even name who our kicker and punter are going to be. Maybe that is just my ignorance shining through, though.
Why did I think he had graduated?

Wishful thinking?

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Mon May 09, 2016 11:44 am

Re: 2016 by Position Group Concern

2016-05-09T10:44:22-06:00

Concur on the concerns with the OL, but I had to go with ST, since I don't think I could even name who our kicker and punter are going to be. Maybe that is just my ignorance shining through, though.

Why did I think he had graduated?

Statistics: Posted by Cougarfan87 — Mon May 09, 2016 10:44 am