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Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-08-02T14:51:10-06:00

I don't think his message has changed from over 2 months ago. Here is a quote from the end of May.

“We have an idea of what we might do if something happens,” Aresco said. “But things can change. You never know what can happen, so you have to be flexible.

“If we lost a team or two, we would not do anything rash quickly. We would be very deliberate. Also we might not decide to add any teams. We can play with 10 if that were to happen. We’re not going to dilute our brand.”

http://www.todaysu.com/aac/mike-aresco- ... 2-reports/

Statistics: Posted by mormonrasta — Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:51 pm

Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-08-02T14:49:49-06:00

The joys of government overreach.

So much for the American Dream of meritocracy.

Statistics: Posted by CrimsonCoug — Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:49 pm

Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-08-02T14:49:07-06:00

Well the other 6 teams should vote no on principle.
Against expansion?

If expansion happens, it will have to include Houston. Texas+Tech+Baylor are enough votes to veto any proposal, which they will do if the proposal doesn't include Baylor. Old boys' network. It's the Texas way. I hate it.

Statistics: Posted by CrimsonCoug — Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:49 pm

Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-08-02T14:43:40-06:00

Houston's case is helped by politics, no doubt. But it's also helped by their recent success which can be used to paper over the political machinations.
As relevant, I believe, but far less discussed is the fact that the PAC-12 was having discussions with Houston a couple of weeks before the BXII media days. The Texas schools are scared that their television and recruiting positions would be undermined by having the PAC appear right in their backyard. Far better to co-opt Houston.

Statistics: Posted by CrimsonCoug — Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:43 pm

Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-08-02T14:31:26-06:00

Just heard the AAC's Commissioner on the radio essentially admit that they will be a 10-team conference in 2017 and they are looking at remaining a ten-team conference.

The AAC currently has 12 football members, so that would mean they are sending two to the Big XII.

I don't think it is a done deal yet. I think, like any good commissioner, he is just planning on what to do in the eventuality that one, two , or three teams are taken. If only two are taken, stand pat. If three, then you have to invite someone. I kind of doubt that anyone has solid invites at this point, but the list has probably been narrowed down, and some of the AAC schools are under consideration.

Statistics: Posted by Cougarfan87 — Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:31 pm

Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-08-02T13:59:48-06:00

Just heard the AAC's Commissioner on the radio essentially admit that they will be a 10-team conference in 2017 and they are looking at remaining a ten-team conference.

The AAC currently has 12 football members, so that would mean they are sending two to the Big XII.

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:59 pm

Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-07-29T18:00:39-06:00

The commissioner of the AAC indicated today that at least two of his schools are going to be leaving the conference for the Big 12.

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:00 pm

Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-07-22T00:55:46-06:00

Here's a another article. I misremembered. It was the Pac who only wanted 2 teams the Big 8 seemed to be always Ok with 4.

No BYU, no Ann Richards.

http://athlonsports.com/college-footbal ... rth-big-12

Statistics: Posted by mormonrasta — Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:55 am

Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-07-22T00:35:09-06:00

Quote from the Dallas Morning News August 30, 2006:

"One of the biggest misconceptions about the breakup of the Southwest Conference was that former Texas Gov. Ann Richards used her political clout to push Baylor into the Big 12. Those close to loquacious Baylor graduate say that just isn't true.

"She just was not involved to any great degree in working that out," said Richards' former chief of staff, John Fainter. "I'd have to say she was informed, but she wasn't pounding the table or anything like that."

Bill Cryer, Richards' former spokesman, said Richards always thought it was funny that people assumed she bent over backward to help Baylor.

"I remember her chuckling about it saying, 'I can't imagine they think I would do that,' " Cryer said. "But you know how football fans are. They see want they want to see."

Statistics: Posted by mormonrasta — Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:35 am

Re: Big XII Expansion--1996 All Over Again?

2016-07-21T23:47:21-06:00

I know Val Hale and Rondo love to tell stories, but the Ann Richards-BYU thing is a wonderful myth. Glen Tuckett even said we really weren't that close to joining the Big 12.

Well, it's myth that also shared by Oklahoma and Texas fans. Even Baylor fans buy into the myth.
http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/Texas-g ... n-46351869

This wouldn’t be the only time a governor threw their weight around with regard to expansion. Many credit former Texas Gov. Ann Richards with helping to push Baylor into the Big 12 as the fourth Texas school back when the conference first formed.

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/ ... n-45932196

[Baylor] shouldn't have been let into the Big 12 to begin with. It's all due to Baylor Law School's (well, it's alumni including Ann Richards who was governor of Texas at about the time the Big 12 was being negotiated) far reaching Texas influence...

http://www2.baylor.edu/baylorproud/2015 ... -governor/

Richards’ time in office benefitted Baylor directly when her influence reportedly helped usher Baylor into the Big 12

http://newsok.com/article/3642689

Baylor's climb — 10 key figures who have inspired the program's rise.

1. Ann Richards. Where would Baylor be now, if Richards hadn't used her political sway to push for Baylor's inclusion when the Big 12 was formed in 1996? The Mountain West Conference? A 1954 Baylor grad who went to school on a debate scholarship, the former governor of Texas won this argument for her school, changing the path of its athletic programs.

Statistics: Posted by SpiffCoug — Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:47 pm