To add my two cents. It's not Dem in general. It is the progressive liberals that are the gidianton robbers steeped in secret combinations. They have always been there in the Dem party (and to a lesser degree in the Republican Party). Pahoran called them Kings-men and during the Am Revolution they were called the Loyalists. But true Americans beat them back every time they reared their ugly head. But they have gained a little each time. 1913 was perhaps their biggest gain with the 17th Ammendment. Each time America finally woke up and beat it back down minus those little gains. FDR was the next super successful Progressive with the New Deal. Most of that was done away with but we still have a welfare system that doesn't encourage self reliance instead rewards dependence on Government. Today's Dem party is once again squarely in the grips of those Progressives. They are once again tearing at the fabric that makes this country great. Obama's biggest piece was his Healthcare. You want to see power over the people that is perhaps the strongest. With it they can limit just about every freedom we have through regulations - guns lead to injury which leads to higher costs and are a burden on the program hence regulations to control those risks. Same with SUV's, and fast food, and motorcycles, and so on. The easiest way to control the people is to make them all criminals and make their wellbeing dependent on the government. The unfortunate part is that too many people fall under their spell, they make things sound good and play with words to confuse and to cajole the people e.g. the word discrimination. People run from that word when in fact it is a valuable tool in judging people. But the Progs tied it to skin color and sexuality and other attributes making it almost a swear. Who here doesn't want the kids to discriminate when it comes to their future spouse? Would you prefer they marry without judging their future spouse's character? Absolutely not.
So I guess my point is that it is in fact not Democrats that are evil but their leaders that identify as Progressives (they hijacked the moniker Liberal because the actions of Wilson and his ilk the word Progressive became apparent that it stood for subjugation and was evil. That's why I usually try to always describe them as Progressive Liberals). There is nothing wrong with being liberal as long as it doesn't end up in the Progressive spectrum.
An example of all this. Today's seat belt laws. Nearly the entire driving populace made criminals by one law. Introduced as good for your safety but how many times did you jump in the car and drive to the end of the street and feel like you were breaking the law because you felt you were only going a 1000 feet and didn't think the risk was high of a major injury or death? But you were a criminal for that 1000 feet. I wear my seat belt religiously but not because I neede a law to tell me to do so. I read the statistics and knew the benefits of wearing them and when I first started driving I promised my mom I would always wear it. These laws also demonstrate when we tend toward liberal and conservative. I don't agree with the seat belt law. I can make that decision without it (conservative leaning-less gov) but I do agree with some child seat belt laws putting the onus on adults to protect the young from a bad decision or in the case of infants no ability (liberal leaning-more gov).
So it is these Progressives that are evil. They are predominantly in the Dem party but exist in all parties to some extent but unfortunately seem to be able to wrest control of the Dem party fairly often (Wilson, FDR, Carter, Clinton, Obama, Boggs, Rahm, Cuomo to name a very few).
I appreciate the view. There ARE parts of the Democrat Party and its ideologies that I find abhorrent. Abortion is one. There are parts of the Republican Party that I find abhorrent too. I guess that is why I've migrated to being an independent. My point above is we should not engage in calling democrats evil or "libtards" whatever that means but it doesn't t send good like DDawg did. That is wrong and
Needs to be called out, at least in my view. It is the same as HRC calling Trump,supporters deplorable. Very wrong. I see DDawg has retracted and reformed his pejoratives so maybe we are making progress. Cheers to youStatistics: Posted by BoiseBYU — Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:45 pm
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