CougarCorner This is the Place, for Cougar Fans! 2019-10-01T06:42:18-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/app.php/feed/topic/24954 2019-10-01T06:42:18-06:00 2019-10-01T06:42:18-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=256019#p256019 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]> Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:42 am


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2019-09-30T18:04:48-06:00 2019-09-30T18:04:48-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=255997#p255997 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]>
mtnradio, I don't know that Sitake taking over the defense would make much difference.
I don't know if it would either ... BUT he was D coordinator at Utah and OSU before coming to BYU. At Utah he had a good defense (KWhit driven, probably) ... not so much at OSU

But, really, could we get much more plain?
Yeah, I don't think his OSU team's defense gives me a good feeling.

Statistics: Posted by BroncoBot — Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:04 pm


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2019-09-28T18:25:42-06:00 2019-09-28T18:25:42-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=255890#p255890 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]> Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:25 pm


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2019-09-28T17:44:52-06:00 2019-09-28T17:44:52-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=255887#p255887 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]>
:skeptic:

Not at all what I said. I just like to point out the hypocrisy of a certain individual who used three specific criteria to argue for Bronco's ouster, who is now pushing for Kalani to be extended when Kalani is doing markedly worse in all three of those criteria.

It's not about Mendenhall--it's about Derik Stevenson and his transparent double-standard.
Why does Derik Stevenson live in your head? Is he on this board or something? If not, then what does pointing out his hypocrisy do for anyone? I just can't relate and don't understand. Sorry--I don't get into the cult of personalities whether it be coaches, former players, or whatever. I just want to see my team play and talk game with fellow fans until it becomes too much not about the game and the players and becomes so much about personal gripes and one-up-manship and "that wouldn't happen if some-former-coach hadn't been run off", etc. When that gets too much I'll move on to another forum.

Statistics: Posted by Fido — Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:44 pm


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2019-09-28T15:40:21-06:00 2019-09-28T15:40:21-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=255883#p255883 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]>
So is it really all about Mendenhall for you then? Live in the past much? If the intent is to avenge what you feel is past wrongs by turning against the current coaching staff, so be it. Just call it like it is.

PS: Bronco didn't suffer some horrible fate. One could argue he came out ahead. And if people were wrong to turn on him then, why is it okay now to turn on Sitake for the same reasons they did then?
:skeptic:

Not at all what I said. I just like to point out the hypocrisy of a certain individual who used three specific criteria to argue for Bronco's ouster, who is now pushing for Kalani to be extended when Kalani is doing markedly worse in all three of those criteria.

It's not about Mendenhall--it's about Derik Stevenson and his transparent double-standard.

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:40 pm


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2019-09-28T14:17:19-06:00 2019-09-28T14:17:19-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=255876#p255876 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]>
I agree with most here that Sitake is underperforming. It's disappointing and frustrating, especially when we have reason to believe the talent is sufficient to be better, and after years and excuses the coaching isn't improving.

But Fido has a point too, after the last 3 years, did we really expect more? (I know, that's not exactly what he said).

It is surprising to me to hear people say KS deserves an extension ... nobody liked Crowton's years. Bronco faced unfair (imo) criticism. KS just isn't performing well and not showing improvement (yes, won 2 this year that could have lost ... but 2.5 if 3 losses looked just plain bad, which is why he's facing so much criticism)

In the end, i'm disappointed with BYU football, but i'm still a fan and keep hoping for wins

Statistics: Posted by mtnradio — Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:17 pm


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2019-09-28T14:09:06-06:00 2019-09-28T14:09:06-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=255874#p255874 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]>
I consider both the Tennessee and USC wins luck. The coaches didn't do anything special to win either of those games. If not for one lucky play where the QB said the players didn't know what play was called, Tennessee is a loss.

BYU is a few plays away from 0-5. Think about that.

Statistics: Posted by Ungoy — Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:09 pm


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2019-09-28T13:57:46-06:00 2019-09-28T13:57:46-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=255871#p255871 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]>
You want another stab at that? BYU looked lost and completely inept against a bad Toledo team. Defense again let the other team walk all over them, offense couldn't sustain a drive. Kalani was outcoached again. BYU lost a game they had no business losing.

Every week, this team comes out and underperforms. Every week they have the same gameplay as the week before. They make zero adjustments. Players are out of position and don't execute. Playcalling is piss poor on offense and defense. This coaching staff isn't mediocre. They're flat out terrible. If Sitake was Bronco, he'd have been run out of town by now.
If they were "flat out terrible", they wouldn't have beat USC and Tennessee. Today was a major disappointment and a huge step backwards. But pining for the Bronco days is a fool's game. He moved on and is happy and successful in Virginia.

Statistics: Posted by Fido — Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:57 pm


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2019-09-28T13:52:08-06:00 2019-09-28T13:52:08-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=255868#p255868 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]>
You guys are so predictable with this stuff. Our defense has sucked since Bronco left, if we turn more field goals into touchdowns we'd win more, coaches need to be fired....

Take all the subjective stuff out about how many points are enough or how many yards to give up is too much, etc. The team is 2-2 after starting what most will tell you is one of the toughest starts to a schedule. Nobody has predicted this team to be better than average-to-good. Shocking news....an average-to-good team doesn't have a lock down defense and a Mike Leach-like offense.

And while you guys are calling for people's jobs, others in media and both inside and outside the program are saying its a crime that Sitake hasn't been extended yet with what the team accomplished so far.

Just like Utah is looking worse than they were hyped to be after breezing through the easy part of their schedule and crapping the bed the first conference game they play, BYU is looking better than people thought they would be after starting off with 4 P5 games. I'm at least ready to see how the rest of the games go before saying how good or bad this team/season really is.
You want another stab at that? BYU looked lost and completely inept against a bad Toledo team. Defense again let the other team walk all over them, offense couldn't sustain a drive. Kalani was outcoached again. BYU lost a game they had no business losing.

Every week, this team comes out and underperforms. Every week they have the same gameplay as the week before. They make zero adjustments. Players are out of position and don't execute. Playcalling is piss poor on offense and defense. This coaching staff isn't mediocre. They're flat out terrible. If Sitake was Bronco, he'd have been run out of town by now.

Statistics: Posted by Ungoy — Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:52 pm


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2019-09-28T09:50:15-06:00 2019-09-28T09:50:15-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=255806#p255806 <![CDATA[Re: Offense and defensive struggles]]>
PS: Bronco didn't suffer some horrible fate. One could argue he came out ahead. And if people were wrong to turn on him then, why is it okay now to turn on Sitake for the same reasons they did then?

Statistics: Posted by Fido — Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:50 am


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