Football and Title IX Bring Baylor to its Knees

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bengel wrote:I was an undergrad at BYU when Title IX became the law. If the federal bureaucrats have their way, Title IX could jeopardize more than sports.

The feds said BYU was subject to Title IX because it received federal aid. BYU said it did not. It agreed that it did some contract work for the federal government, but that was all. It was willing to forego future contracts.

The feds asked if BYU had students attending that were receiving federal money. They cited the GI Bill, Social Security Survivor benefits, and federally guaranteed student loans, all of which were federal benefits received by students.

BYU agreed that it had students receiving various types of federal benefits. The feds said that constituted aid to the University. The students used federal benefits to pay their tuition. Therefore, it was aid to BYU.

Because of this, some bureaucrat told then Pres. Oaks that the showers in the Richards Building would have to be changed. It was a form of gender discrimination to have pillars with shower heads for men, and stalls with curtains for women.

If the folks with that mindset have their way, BYU would not only have to forget about sports. It would have to deny admission to anyone receiving any sort of money tied to the federal government. In the current day, that would include students receiving subsidies for their Obamacare insurance.

I just love the great and spacious building mindset.
I remember this too. There was also a federal attempt to pressure BYU to provide co-ed dormitories! As if that could happen at a private university that accepts no government subsidy. The argument that aid to individual students equates to aid to the university is not only invalid, but completely lame.

The dirty little secret about gov aid is, that the gov owns you. Meanwhile, the dirty little secret about freedom, is that you are on your own.

There is a truism from an author that I forget, that says: He that would trade freedom for a little security, deserves neither and will lose both.
It was Ben Franlin. The full quote:

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."


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The latest at Baylor?

Investigators have blamed the very existence of an Honor Code for silencing victims:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... ms-silence


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snoscythe wrote:The BYUPD chief and persons inside the Utah County Sheriff's office have now asked the Utah Department of Public Safety investigate BYU's police department for violations in sex assault reporting and access/dissemination of information:

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/e ... 8becc.html

The investigations are growing, and now including outside, independent investigators.
More details have come out about the impetus for the DPS investigation/audit of the BYU PD. Apparently, the Utah County Sheriff's office first requested it after noting that BYU PD was accessing the shared crime database much more frequently than other, larger departments were, and the Sheriff's office believes the BYU PD is sharing the information in the database with the Honor Code Office.

BYU PD denies that, but since the Sheriff's office squawked, BYU PD has cut their database inquiries by more than half....

Yes, BYU PD did "invite" the audit as initially reported, but only after the Sheriff's office made the initial request and it was going to happen anyway--what else was BYU PD going to do?

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=41802437&nid=14 ... tate-audit


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Latest news out of Baylor is that the Title IX Coordinator has requested the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights investigate Baylor -- and they've accepted. The Coordinator feels that the Regents and administration used the Athletic Department as a scapegoat to gloss over university-wide problems (see also Art Briles' lawsuit and near-immediate settlement by the university), so they've now brought in the Feds. The Coordinator's biggest complaint? The Baylor Honor Code itself is a hinderance to Title IX.


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snoscythe wrote:Latest news out of Baylor is that the Title IX Coordinator has requested the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights investigate Baylor -- and they've accepted. The Coordinator feels that the Regents and administration used the Athletic Department as a scapegoat to gloss over university-wide problems (see also Art Briles' lawsuit and near-immediate settlement by the university), so they've now brought in the Feds. The Coordinator's biggest complaint? The Baylor Honor Code itself is a hinderance to Title IX.
Your last sentence is extremely disconcerting.


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BoiseBYU wrote:
snoscythe wrote:Latest news out of Baylor is that the Title IX Coordinator has requested the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights investigate Baylor -- and they've accepted. The Coordinator feels that the Regents and administration used the Athletic Department as a scapegoat to gloss over university-wide problems (see also Art Briles' lawsuit and near-immediate settlement by the university), so they've now brought in the Feds. The Coordinator's biggest complaint? The Baylor Honor Code itself is a hinderance to Title IX.
Your last sentence is extremely disconcerting.
And with that the writing is clearly on the wall. It's only a matter of time now until it's all over.


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BoiseBYU wrote:
snoscythe wrote:Latest news out of Baylor is that the Title IX Coordinator has requested the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights investigate Baylor -- and they've accepted. The Coordinator feels that the Regents and administration used the Athletic Department as a scapegoat to gloss over university-wide problems (see also Art Briles' lawsuit and near-immediate settlement by the university), so they've now brought in the Feds. The Coordinator's biggest complaint? The Baylor Honor Code itself is a hinderance to Title IX.
Your last sentence is extremely disconcerting.
The US Commission on Civil Rights has recently published a report which lays the groundwork to begin religious persecution. They argue (and adopt) a position that religious beliefs are protected, but acting on those beliefs is not. They promote that religion must give way to "civil rights" because civil rights are of preeminent importance in the Constitution, law, and life of America.
See for your self (look for the findings and recommendations section starting on page 35 of the scan):
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/Peaceful-Coex ... -07-16.PDF

This IS scary stuff ... and it fits precisely into what this thread is about ...


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if "we have to burn the village with Trump to save it" to slow down these type a of social justice jokes, I'm all for burning the village.


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BroncoBot wrote:if "we have to burn the village with Trump to save it" to slow down these type a of social justice jokes, I'm all for burning the village.
But Trump says mean things and talked about sexually assaulting women, so the alternative is to throw your vote away with someone who has publicly stated that his entire presidential run is to take away votes (and a state) from Trump. :whistle:


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