Offensive problems not Taysom's fault
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Re: Offensive problems not 100% Taysom's Fault, But He is a Large Part of the Problem, Plus We Are All Sad That He Doesn
Ha! Classic!SpiffCoug wrote:Done!McY wrote:IMO, the thread title should be "Offensive problems not 100% Taysom's Fault, But He is a Large Part of the Problem, Plus We Are All Sad That He Doesn't Run as Fast as Forever Ago and Losing Close Games Sucks." ....or something like.
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Re: Offensive problems not Taysom's fault
I noticed when BYU went up tempo and Taysom was free to run in all 4 drives in the 4th quarter Taysom was in his element and the offense worked but in the normal offense even though much improved Taysom looked like a fish out of water. Turning an option/running QB into a drop back passer is ok but not during the guys senior year as it will take a couple of years to get it down. remember Steve young took 4 seasons, counting his redshirt year, before be able to start as he had to learn how to read defenses and throw accurately.
The 3 picks were mostly Taysom. The first was all Taysom but the 2 tipped passes were from trying to go to far to fast and both were thrown to high but catchable and were tipped because the WRs didn't go back to the ball and because of bad route running. Neither ball should have been thrown as Taysom's accuracy stinks over 15 yards. This is where Mangum has the edge as his accuracy over 15 yards is much better than Taysom's accuracy. The WRs were much better last year under Holiday than this year under Cahoon had these same problems as WR coach under Doman for 2 years which was why Bronco fired him and brought in Holiday.
The 3 picks were mostly Taysom. The first was all Taysom but the 2 tipped passes were from trying to go to far to fast and both were thrown to high but catchable and were tipped because the WRs didn't go back to the ball and because of bad route running. Neither ball should have been thrown as Taysom's accuracy stinks over 15 yards. This is where Mangum has the edge as his accuracy over 15 yards is much better than Taysom's accuracy. The WRs were much better last year under Holiday than this year under Cahoon had these same problems as WR coach under Doman for 2 years which was why Bronco fired him and brought in Holiday.
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Re: Offensive problems not Taysom's fault
Actually comparing pre-cahoon to cahoon 1.0, the receivers were a lot better under Cahoon. Comparing Cahoon 1.0 to Holiday, the receivers took a dip the first year, but recovered. This year, yeah, the receivers as a corps are worse. But who on this corps is comparable to Cody Hoffman, Jordan Leslie or Mitch Matthews? Who's the go-to guy?
Kurtz? He's a good supporting wideout when we have a money man like the three above. Juergs? Too short (Taysom's throw to him was actually where it needed to be because of the position and height of the defenders; he had to get it over them, but still be able to drop into the hole where Juergens was sitting. It came in a bit hot and high because it had to. Juergens was just a bit too short to be able to make the play).
For that matter, Tanner, though a solid QB, benefitted tremendously from having a very tall group of 3 wideouts (Matthews, Houk, Kurtz) plus pretty reliable hands in Devon Blackman and Juergs on the inside. What do we have now? Kurtz (a supporting cast guy), Juergens (a short guy but not even as sure-handed as Nate Miekle), and Hifo (playing his first meaningful snaps and not terribly tall)
Point is, we can't disentangle the effect of Cahoon 2.0 from the fact that we just have a shorter, slower wideouts. I think the any two of the 3 volleyballs-turned-interceptions this year in the Utah and WVU games would have been caught by last year's group.
Kurtz? He's a good supporting wideout when we have a money man like the three above. Juergs? Too short (Taysom's throw to him was actually where it needed to be because of the position and height of the defenders; he had to get it over them, but still be able to drop into the hole where Juergens was sitting. It came in a bit hot and high because it had to. Juergens was just a bit too short to be able to make the play).
For that matter, Tanner, though a solid QB, benefitted tremendously from having a very tall group of 3 wideouts (Matthews, Houk, Kurtz) plus pretty reliable hands in Devon Blackman and Juergs on the inside. What do we have now? Kurtz (a supporting cast guy), Juergens (a short guy but not even as sure-handed as Nate Miekle), and Hifo (playing his first meaningful snaps and not terribly tall)
Point is, we can't disentangle the effect of Cahoon 2.0 from the fact that we just have a shorter, slower wideouts. I think the any two of the 3 volleyballs-turned-interceptions this year in the Utah and WVU games would have been caught by last year's group.
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Re: Offensive problems not Taysom's fault
I totally agree. I think this is a huge part of the problem. Because of the QB derby, neither QB nor the receivers could get in consistent work to build communication, timing, and touch.Gunk wrote:
No question there is misscommunication. Either the receivers aren't following the plays or Hill isn't or both. Regardless, the timing is way off and the receivers are out of sync with the QB. Remember all those stories we heard of Max Hall going out and throwing balls with Pita and Collie. I wonder if the same was going on with Hill and this receiving corps. Doubt it, since Hill was rehabbing.
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