offense is too slow...

[frdbtr]

What ever happened to, "You touch it, you catch it?" Was the ball on the second pick high? Yeah. Should it have been caught anyway? Most definitely. BYU's passing offense in the past has thrived not by getting giant receivers with sprinter speed, but by having guys run precise routes and finding a way to get open, and then catching whatever came to them. Look at Koslowski, Bellini, Drage, Cahoon, etc. These guys were not prototypical NFL receivers. But if you threw the ball at them, you knew they had a good chance of coming up with it - even if you probably shouldn't have even thought about throwing it in the first place. Same goes for our tight ends, from Clay Brown to Lewis and Mili to George and Pitta. High, low, in front, behind, wide open or in traffic, they were going to catch the ball, or at least come as close as any human being could possibly be expected to. I mean, does Kos have any business catching that TD at the back of the endzone against Michigan? No! But he did it anyway! Cahoon has a 7 minute highlight video on YouTube, he's probably shorter and slower than Juergens, yet in the first 30 seconds of that video you see 3 catches all more difficult than that second pick. Eric Drage, same deal - not big, not fast, but he got open and he caught every pass he should have and a whole bunch of passes he had no business catching. I don't care how hard it's thrown or where it's placed, if you get two hands on the ball you catch it. Period. And if you don't, it's on you. You can't learn speed, and you can't learn height, but you can sure as heck learn to catch a ball.

The third pick was a bad decision, you don't throw that ball, that's on Taysom. Still, I'd like to see Hifo either win that battle and catch it anyway, or at least turn into a defender and bat it down. You've got to have enough situational awareness to know it's second down, there's a defender behind you, and so an incompletion isn't the end of the world. A pick is. But maybe it never even comes to that without the second pick.

Ty Detmer just put the blame on Hifo for the last interception. (in coordinators corneer). Said it was the right read for the defense played, the right type of throw, but Hifo tried to let the ball come to him instead of planting and high pointing the ball. Pick 1 was all on Taysom, the other 2 were not.

[Cougarfan87]

What ever happened to, "You touch it, you catch it?" Was the ball on the second pick high? Yeah. Should it have been caught anyway? Most definitely. BYU's passing offense in the past has thrived not by getting giant receivers with sprinter speed, but by having guys run precise routes and finding a way to get open, and then catching whatever came to them. Look at Koslowski, Bellini, Drage, Cahoon, etc. These guys were not prototypical NFL receivers. But if you threw the ball at them, you knew they had a good chance of coming up with it - even if you probably shouldn't have even thought about throwing it in the first place. Same goes for our tight ends, from Clay Brown to Lewis and Mili to George and Pitta. High, low, in front, behind, wide open or in traffic, they were going to catch the ball, or at least come as close as any human being could possibly be expected to. I mean, does Kos have any business catching that TD at the back of the endzone against Michigan? No! But he did it anyway! Cahoon has a 7 minute highlight video on YouTube, he's probably shorter and slower than Juergens, yet in the first 30 seconds of that video you see 3 catches all more difficult than that second pick. Eric Drage, same deal - not big, not fast, but he got open and he caught every pass he should have and a whole bunch of passes he had no business catching. I don't care how hard it's thrown or where it's placed, if you get two hands on the ball you catch it. Period. And if you don't, it's on you. You can't learn speed, and you can't learn height, but you can sure as heck learn to catch a ball.

The third pick was a bad decision, you don't throw that ball, that's on Taysom. Still, I'd like to see Hifo either win that battle and catch it anyway, or at least turn into a defender and bat it down. You've got to have enough situational awareness to know it's second down, there's a defender behind you, and so an incompletion isn't the end of the world. A pick is. But maybe it never even comes to that without the second pick.

Ty Detmer just put the blame on Hifo for the last interception. (in coordinators corneer). Said it was the right read for the defense played, the right type of throw, but Hifo tried to let the ball come to him instead of planting and high pointing the ball. Pick 1 was all on Taysom, the other 2 were not.

That was my impression in real time. The first pick was floated too much, which allowed the defender to step in front of it. The other two were accurate enough, but the receivers brick-handed them.

[mtnradio]

I've said pick 1 was all Taysom. Pick 2 I think was partly Taysom (too high, especially with a hard pass). Pick 3 I've always said was Hifo. I'm glad Ty is coming around to my point of view!

[frdbtr]

I've said pick 1 was all Taysom. Pick 2 I think was partly Taysom (too high, especially with a hard pass). Pick 3 I've always said was Hifo. I'm glad Ty is coming around to my point of view!

On AFR they said pick 2 was the right read thrown on time and was placed correctly because he had to drop it over the linebacker but in front of the safety. The receiver just didn't catch it. Pick 2 on the receiver per AFR.

[BlueK]

The offense scored 32 points today and lost. That is unacceptable defense. Like I said in another post, if the defense doesn't give up 88, 86 and 99 yard TD drives BYU wins.

the reason 32 wasn't enough was because of the pick six Hill threw.

[frdbtr]

The offense scored 32 points today and lost. That is unacceptable defense. Like I said in another post, if the defense doesn't give up 88, 86 and 99 yard TD drives BYU wins.

the reason 32 wasn't enough was because of the pick six Hill threw.

And the defense gave up TD drives of 86, 88, and 99 yards. Remove one of those and even the pick 6 wouldn't have mattered. 32 points is enough to win if the defense is doing its job.

[Jarhead]

If what y'all are saying is true, pick 3 is on Detmer then. In my opinion going straight for the endzone on 2nd&2 with still a minute left is not something I would have recommended, but here is what I really don't like about this play:

-This was a play where multiple receivers went deep. Under this circumstance the "right" read should be designed to be that you have a wide open receiver for the touchdown because you surprised the defense completely, or if the defense covers fairly well, you don't throw that ball (the risk vs reward doesn't justify it with that many defenders back in coverage) and you look for something short or just run for the first down (since there should be plenty of open spaces at a shorter distance.

-If they had sent one receiver deep and gotten one on one coverage I would be more okay with throwing it because there is less risk (there would not have been three defenders in the vicinity).

[Jarhead]

The play call and read are fine under normal circumstances, but when a turnover means game over and you have a high probability of still scoring another way, you don't call that play with that set of read options.

[hawkwing]

Taking a shot at the endzone on 2nd and 2 when you can tie it up with a field goal with a minute to go is not even as aggressive as going for 2 pt conversions, which we have done unnecessarily several times this year. The fact of the matter is, that's our offensive identity thus far this year. Unfortunately it just hasn't yet gone in our favor.

[frdbtr]

I like the play call. The throw was exactly what it should have been, the interception happened because of the combination of a freshman receiver not going after the ball aggressively, the defender doing a fantastic job of getting a hand in there even though he was not turned around and another defender being in the right place at the right time.