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I think it's funny that since Heaps was a lousy QB, that now every time a ball is dropped BYU fans have to now blame the QB. I'm not seeing a lot of dropped balls that were similar to the Heaps drops this year. I'm seeing a lot of balls hitting guys in the numbers or in the hands that are being dropped. I'm seeing a lot of receivers running bad routs that make balls look like they are poorly thrown, I'm seeing a lot of defenders blowing up the offensive line and in the QB's face before he even has a second to survey the field. Yes, Taysom is not perfect but the offense as a whole needs a lot of work, and frankly, it starts with the offensive line which was terrible in the Boise game.


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Yes, there have been lots of flat out drops, but I'm also seeing a lot of balls that yes the WRs are getting a hand on, but they are no where close to hitting them on the numbers. A WR is running to the right, ball gets thrown behind him, WR contorts his body to get a hand on it and "drops" it. Yes, this is potentially the worse group or performance of WRs that I can remember, but the QB is not helping. I seriously LOL when I hear someone mention Hill and the draft. Not. Going. To. Happen. But then again if Heaps can get onto a practice squad then anything can happen...
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Hill may not get drafted but it will have a lot more to do with his age than his talent level. A lot of the bad throws are due to receivers breaking the wrong way. Watch AFR, they point it out every time. Once again, Hill is not perfect but there is a lot of bad looking throws because the QB and the receivers are still not on the same page, probably due to the new offense.


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Age is only the start.
He locks onto receivers and is easy to defend by D backfields
He is not decisive in his decision making and holds onto the ball too long (this could also be a poor WR problem)
And his greatest asset is hobbled by injuries. His amazing speed is now merely average.
Even still, Frdbtr is right. He's good enough for our O. Not prefect. But the WRs are responsible for a considerable amount of offensive inneficiency.


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Devon Blackmon is on ESPN960 right now -- also placing blame with and calling out the receiving corps:
...but also mentioned giving Tanner a shot:


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Cougs_Rule wrote: He locks onto receivers and is easy to defend by D backfields.
This is my biggest and honestly one of my only issues with TH. He seems terrible at throwing off the D, and he really does just laser eye on the single receiver he plans to go to.


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bamf3000 wrote:
Cougs_Rule wrote: He locks onto receivers and is easy to defend by D backfields.
This is my biggest and honestly one of my only issues with TH. He seems terrible at throwing off the D, and he really does just laser eye on the single receiver he plans to go to.
I don't know that I can agree. It certainly does look like that based on how well the guys are covered when the pass gets there. I think that is primarily a receiver-failing-to-get-separation problem. Watch TH, you can see him go through his progressions (when he has time). I'd say he has 2 primary problems ... 1) He waits until the receiver is open to throw (which means they are probably covered when the ball gets there) ... so he's waited too long (which actually sounds more like a trust issue: he doesn't trust the receivers to get open); and 2) he hasn't figured out how to put proper touch on the ball (think of the bullet he hit Squally with in the BSU game ... if SC hadn't caught it, it would have been buried in his chest!) Touch is tough to learn. There are a lot of guys who never learn it. But it can also be a symptom of stress, frustration, and lack of time. Not all problems are the receivers and line, but when those two pieces of the puzzle looked good, so did TH, or at least he looked a LOT better.

I've been down on TH this year too ... but take a step back and look at how it all fits together, and there is less to lay on him, and more to give to others.


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mtnradio wrote:
bamf3000 wrote:
Cougs_Rule wrote: He locks onto receivers and is easy to defend by D backfields.
This is my biggest and honestly one of my only issues with TH. He seems terrible at throwing off the D, and he really does just laser eye on the single receiver he plans to go to.
I don't know that I can agree. It certainly does look like that based on how well the guys are covered when the pass gets there. I think that is primarily a receiver-failing-to-get-separation problem. Watch TH, you can see him go through his progressions (when he has time). I'd say he has 2 primary problems ... 1) He waits until the receiver is open to throw (which means they are probably covered when the ball gets there) ... so he's waited too long (which actually sounds more like a trust issue: he doesn't trust the receivers to get open); and 2) he hasn't figured out how to put proper touch on the ball (think of the bullet he hit Squally with in the BSU game ... if SC hadn't caught it, it would have been buried in his chest!) Touch is tough to learn. There are a lot of guys who never learn it. But it can also be a symptom of stress, frustration, and lack of time. Not all problems are the receivers and line, but when those two pieces of the puzzle looked good, so did TH, or at least he looked a LOT better.

I've been down on TH this year too ... but take a step back and look at how it all fits together, and there is less to lay on him, and more to give to others.
Which is why he hasn't been benched. If it was reversed, we would already see Tanner M. as the QB.


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