My case against Robert Anae

[Brayden Green]

Yeah, because Algie and Stewart have been held accountable for their fumbles/INTs, and the Oline for their penalties ad false starts and rediculous personal fouls, Matthews accountable for his PIs and not contesting INTs thrown his way, etc...

Anae wants to come down on the guy averaging 12.5 yards a carry and bench him after a 20 yard run when we didn't even lose the ball? Ok, fine. But where is the consistency?

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OL hasn't had many false starts this year.
0 vs UConn
1 vs Texas
0 vs Houston
1 vs Virginia
3 vs Utah St
2 vs UCF
0 vs Nevada.

That's 7 in 7 games. Last year we had 17 thru 7 games. That's a marked and impressive level of improvement by the OL.

And holding? And Personal Fouls? Illegal Formation? Offensive PI?

We are the most penalized team in the nation for a reason, and it isn't all on the defense. Think of how many deep plays (Taysom Runs, etc) have been called back this year. And that isn't even talking about qb hurryups, knockdowns, sacks, and the qb getting pushed out of the pocket.

The offensive line *might* be better, but it isn't even close to being a good unit.

[snoscythe]

We are the most penalized team in the nation for a reason

Actually, #70 in penalties per game with 6.15 penalties per game.

In penalty yards per game, we are #122, better than Marshall (7-0, #23), Texas Tech (3-4, NR), and Baylor (6-1, #12). Only slightly worse than ECU (5-1, #18).

If anything, looking at the five most penalized (on a yards per game basis), you'd come away thinking maybe more penalties is correlated with winning as TTech is the only one with a losing record, and 3 of the other 4 are ranked in the top-25, and the 4th was ranked until it lost half its team to an injury bug.

[Cougarbib]

It might be very interesting to see data about where the penalties arise. I think one of the blindspots of Blue is that he attributes everything that is not the defense to the offense and then attributes all of that to the offensive coordinator.

I have no idea how the penalties break down. There, I admitted it.
An analysis of penalty count, penalty yards, some criticality indicator - drive killing - opponent drive extending - terrible field position, - like when Koroma had 15 yards tacked on to the end of a sack and we had 4th and 30 or 40 at the 10 yard line. And then average that by number of snaps that unit has been on the field.

My wild guess is that Special Teams units like the offsides on kicks, not getting it 10 yards, kicking out of bounds, and then return defense penalties and return offense penalties are disproportionate given the few plays they are on the field. There are definitely plenty to go around. Offense certainly gets its share. Defense is not immune either.

Look at the average field position for BYU and for Nevada and for every series throughout the game. That was the issue. pure and simple. And, until very late in the 3rd quarter, the defense and special teams were the cause of all of that disparity. In the 4th quarter, the entire team, including the offense contributed to the disparity. That is what went wrong.

Inexperienced teams make mistakes. Inexperienced players and coaches make mistakes. Actually all players and coaches make some mistakes. Inexperienced ones make more of them.

There is a direct comparison up north if anyone wants to make the comparison. Kyle vs Bronco. pretty close really.

Sitake > Howell > J Hill.

Anae > any of the steady stream of OC up there lately.

Now if you want to compare our crew against Bama, Ohio State, Florida State, LSU, etc., different outcome. Quite a bit different. If Blue cannot accept that, he is rooting for the wrong team.

[Gunk]

OL is marginally better, maybe. The number of sacks will continue to climb since CStew isn't as mobile as Hill. Hill would tuck and run the moment things started to collapse. Looks like he was right to as much as we bemoaned the tuck 'n run mentality.

Penalties seem to have dropped, but maybe I'm just getting used to us being penalized all the time.

Bronco and Anae are not inexperienced coaches. They should know how to get teams playing sound, fundamental, mistake-free football. This isn't their first rodeo, and I see no reason why fans can't hold them accountable for such. I certainly hope Holmoe isn't giving them a pass.

On the topic of Carter - I hope he gets more reps. I like his speed. Was nice to see an RB out there that actually looked faster than the other players.

[Schmoe]

We are the most penalized team in the nation for a reason

Actually, #70 in penalties per game with 6.15 penalties per game.

In penalty yards per game, we are #122, better than Marshall (7-0, #23), Texas Tech (3-4, NR), and Baylor (6-1, #12). Only slightly worse than ECU (5-1, #18).

If anything, looking at the five most penalized (on a yards per game basis), you'd come away thinking maybe more penalties is correlated with winning as TTech is the only one with a losing record, and 3 of the other 4 are ranked in the top-25, and the 4th was ranked until it lost half its team to an injury bug.

On that same note, the Seahawks were the most penalized team in the NFL last year.

[jonnylingo]

OL is marginally better, maybe. The number of sacks will continue to climb since CStew isn't as mobile as Hill. Hill would tuck and run the moment things started to collapse. Looks like he was right to as much as we bemoaned the tuck 'n run mentality.

Penalties seem to have dropped, but maybe I'm just getting used to us being penalized all the time.

Bronco and Anae are not inexperienced coaches. They should know how to get teams playing sound, fundamental, mistake-free football. This isn't their first rodeo, and I see no reason why fans can't hold them accountable for such. I certainly hope Holmoe isn't giving them a pass.

On the topic of Carter - I hope he gets more reps. I like his speed. Was nice to see an RB out there that actually looked faster than the other players.

i am not sure sacks will go up with stew. taysom got a lot of sacks because he held on to the ball too long. stew gets it out quicker.

[Cougarbib]

OL is marginally better, maybe. The number of sacks will continue to climb since CStew isn't as mobile as Hill. Hill would tuck and run the moment things started to collapse. Looks like he was right to as much as we bemoaned the tuck 'n run mentality.

Penalties seem to have dropped, but maybe I'm just getting used to us being penalized all the time.

Bronco and Anae are not inexperienced coaches. They should know how to get teams playing sound, fundamental, mistake-free football. This isn't their first rodeo, and I see no reason why fans can't hold them accountable for such. I certainly hope Holmoe isn't giving them a pass.

On the topic of Carter - I hope he gets more reps. I like his speed. Was nice to see an RB out there that actually looked faster than the other players.

I doubt he is faster than Williams, and Williams does not out run many corner backs. He looked fast, because there was a lot of room to run after it was set up by throwing several times.

Anybody have data? BTW, Brown had a great run and a good catch and run on 2 touches - bam. Ankle. Lasike ran well. We set up the run well with our passing game. Heck, the 5th string RB could have run through those holes!

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[ABYUFAN]

OL is marginally better, maybe. The number of sacks will continue to climb since CStew isn't as mobile as Hill. Hill would tuck and run the moment things started to collapse. Looks like he was right to as much as we bemoaned the tuck 'n run mentality.

Penalties seem to have dropped, but maybe I'm just getting used to us being penalized all the time.

Bronco and Anae are not inexperienced coaches. They should know how to get teams playing sound, fundamental, mistake-free football. This isn't their first rodeo, and I see no reason why fans can't hold them accountable for such. I certainly hope Holmoe isn't giving them a pass.

On the topic of Carter - I hope he gets more reps. I like his speed. Was nice to see an RB out there that actually looked faster than the other players.

I doubt he is faster than Williams, and Williams does not out run many corner backs. He looked fast, because there was a lot of room to run after it was set up by throwing several times.

Anybody have data? BTW, Brown had a great run and a good catch and run on 2 touches - bam. Ankle. Lasike ran well. We set up the run well with our passing game. Heck, the 5th string RB could have run through those holes!

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Just to be clear... Williams is fast.. as in VERY FAST. He wasn't on the track team this year because he is powerful... it was because he is fast

[Brayden Green]

We are the most penalized team in the nation for a reason

Actually, #70 in penalties per game with 6.15 penalties per game.

In penalty yards per game, we are #122, better than Marshall (7-0, #23), Texas Tech (3-4, NR), and Baylor (6-1, #12). Only slightly worse than ECU (5-1, #18).

If anything, looking at the five most penalized (on a yards per game basis), you'd come away thinking maybe more penalties is correlated with winning as TTech is the only one with a losing record, and 3 of the other 4 are ranked in the top-25, and the 4th was ranked until it lost half its team to an injury bug.

Well, those teams score touchdowns all game long. Us? Not so much. It's an interesting correlation (until last week we were second from last, I'm working with old data), but considering the number of first downs we have given away, and touchdowns that have been called back, we can't afford it. We don't have a home run hitter anymore now that Taysom is gone, and our OC is benching anyone that gets over 12.5 yards a carry for no apparent reason.

[snoscythe]

BYU does not have a penalty problem, they have a stupid penalty problem.

Penalties are okay if they come in the context of being aggressive and taking risks. Stupid penalties (e.g. offsides on an on-side kick attempt, personal fouls) are not.