Cougarbib2 wrote:BS in this thread. Bluntly put, the expectations BYU have for the basketball team are way lower than for basketball.
In basketball
Nobody even talks about undefeated, NC, Top 10 at the beginning if almost every season.
BYU has never gotten the #1 pick under Rose - and Shawn Bradley, under Roger Reid only stayed a year.
Nobody will bat an eye if we do not land Parker
Or if D. Harrison transfers.
If we get top 25 everyone will be giddy
We can lose in first or 2 ND round of NCAA and never win conference tourney - nobody wants to fire the coach
Saw a poll ranking us 3rd in WCC again this year - no outcry
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Hmm...I'll bite.
In basketball there are 345 D1 teams. Top 25 in basketball would put you in the top 7%.
In football, there are 119 Division 1A schools. Top 25 in football would put in the top 21%.
Looking a bit further at basketball, 68 teams make it to the NCAA tournament. That's only 19% of schools. BYU basketball has gone to the NCAA tournament every year since 2007. Every year, in the last half decade BYU basketball has played on a national level and among the top 20% of the sport with more success than football has.
BYU basketball is improving its post-season performance. We're going places in basketball. Whereas in football, what's the biggest bowl we've played in since 2007...the Las Vegas Bowl...against a 4th place Pac10 team.
In one season, now many ranked teams does football play against? 1 on average; 2 isn't uncommon; 3 is rare. Yes, there are less games, but there are also less teams.
In basketball, it isn't uncommon for BYU to play 3+ ranked teams in a season. That would mean Rose has BYU playing teams within the top 7% of the sport, semi-regularly. Applying that same standard to football, Bronco would have to play teams ranked at least in the Top 8 every season.
Football has no conference championship to play for, so I really don't get that argument.
Basketball still has a conference championship to play for and will be competing for it despite not being "favored" to win. Before football left the MWC, we didn't win the conference championship. Again, football is regressing or at best plateauing.
Assuming NCAA football moved to a tournament system similar to basketball with at most 16 teams making it in (haven't heard talks of any more). That would mean BYU football would have to be in the top 13% of teams - Top 15. Do you honestly think Bronco will have us within the Top 15 anytime soon and there regularly? Maybe once every 5 years or so when the stars align. 10 - 2 seasons won't get us there, not with our schedules.
By contrast, top 13% in basketball lands within the Top 50. BYU under Rose has always been a Top 50 team.
Again, there is no double standard. Basketball is quietly outperforming football. Only thing I don't get is why basketball takes the back seat to football as BYU clearly does better than football in that sport.