Oregon

[Brayden Green]

Yes to all the Carlino stuff. He wasn't great, but no one on BYU was. I liked that he didn't quit and kept trying, and actually gave us a chance. There was no one on the court that worked harder than Carlino wearing a BYU jersey yesterday, with the possible exception of Mika.

The zone defense is just miserable, and got exposed for what it is. That is why we lost. Carlino got us to 3 points down with 12 minutes to go. 3 minutes later we were down 12. That is down to a mixture of the zone, poor coaching adjustment and recognition, and not having enough quality players wearing blue, which the injury of Collinsworth certainly affected. I don't think that if Carlino or Haws played a perfect game, or if Rose coached a perfect game we would still have won that game. We just didn't have the personnel with KColl out, and their bench took our bench to the woodshed and hurt them bad.

[Gunk]

Yes to all the Carlino stuff. He wasn't great, but no one on BYU was. I liked that he didn't quit and kept trying, and actually gave us a chance. There was no one on the court that worked harder than Carlino wearing a BYU jersey yesterday, with the possible exception of Mika.

The zone defense is just miserable, and got exposed for what it is. That is why we lost. Carlino got us to 3 points down with 12 minutes to go. 3 minutes later we were down 12. That is down to a mixture of the zone, poor coaching adjustment and recognition, and not having enough quality players wearing blue, which the injury of Collinsworth certainly affected. I don't think that if Carlino or Haws played a perfect game, or if Rose coached a perfect game we would still have won that game. We just didn't have the personnel with KColl out, and their bench took our bench to the woodshed and hurt them bad.

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Defense was absolutely horrible. I hope Rose gets rid of the zone. At the very least, I hope they all study up on how to play the zone. Rotations are bad. Huge pockets (baseline and side corners). It's bad.

[SpiffCoug]

Rose really needs to scrap the zone. This was the second year in a row that the zone defense was just awful.

[Cougarbib]

Do you really think BYU plays man defense well against good opponents?

Oregon played over 30 games this year. They averaged over 80 points a game. They are a very good offensive team.

What I think is a more interesting point to ponder is why BYU scored so far under our own average and under what Oregon allows on average vs an Oregon team not known for defense. That was the surprise.

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[SpiffCoug]

Because our issues on offense. We were forced to play guys who have no interest in playing offense so teams could double multiple players.

When Austin and Sharp on the floor together, teams could double Haws and STILL have a guy to float and help wherever the ball went.

BYU can't play players who are afraid of the ball on offense.

[snoscythe]

In the second half of the Gonzaga game, and for the entire Oregon game, BYU needed points, needed a lot of them, and needed them in a hurry.

I don't understand why BYU fans are upset that Carlino tried to do that. Who did they expect to try and step up and get us back in the Gonzaga game and replace KC's scoring against Oregon? Frank Bartley?

[Gunk]

In the second half of the Gonzaga game, and for the entire Oregon game, BYU needed points, needed a lot of them, and needed them in a hurry.

I don't understand why BYU fans are upset that Carlino tried to do that. Who did they expect to try and step up and get us back in the Gonzaga game and replace KC's scoring against Oregon? Frank Bartley?

This.

And it's been this way almost the entire season. At the beginning of the season, who other than Haws was going to score the ball? Austin? Nope. Mika? Good for a few. KC? Took him a bit to get his legs and scoring back. So right from the get go Haws and MC were relied on to score the ball.

KC got hot and Winder got hoy at the end of the season, minus the last two games. But in all seriousness, we played 3 on 5 when on offense against Oregon.

We desperately need a 2 that can knick down 3s and stretch the defense and 4 or 5 that can keep defenses honest in the middle. We didn't really have either of those pieces this year.

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[hawkwing]

In the second half of the Gonzaga game, and for the entire Oregon game, BYU needed points, needed a lot of them, and needed them in a hurry.

I don't understand why BYU fans are upset that Carlino tried to do that. Who did they expect to try and step up and get us back in the Gonzaga game and replace KC's scoring against Oregon? Frank Bartley?

I never got upset that Carlino tried to score, I got upset that he tried to score from 6 feet beyond the arc.

[Mars]

I never got upset that Carlino tried to score, I got upset that he tried to score from 6 feet beyond the arc.

Or when he sprints down the court, dribbles straight into 3 defenders, and then lobs up an ugly shot that barely gets near the basket, all about 4 seconds into the shot clock and without a single pass. That's dumb basketball.

[hawkwing]

I never got upset that Carlino tried to score, I got upset that he tried to score from 6 feet beyond the arc.

Or when he sprints down the court, dribbles straight into 3 defenders, and then lobs up an ugly shot that barely gets near the basket, all about 4 seconds into the shot clock and without a single pass. That's dumb basketball.

Yep.