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Basketball. He is not LDS. But he was fine with the social scene and honor code and life in Provo. Had some great experiences. He just was not happy with basketball relative to giving him his best chance for success. Most fans probably guessed that. Now Carlino has said i in an interview at his new school.

I wish him well. I am glad that other than basketball is experience here was positive.


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Hmmm...Don't know what went on in practices or what Rose said to him. But I think he got plenty of chances. Still think he should have gone back to starting. Fans did turn on him IMO.

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Gunk wrote:Hmmm...Don't know what went on in practices or what Rose said to him. But I think he got plenty of chances. Still think he should have gone back to starting. Fans did turn on him IMO.

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Gunk wrote:Hmmm...Don't know what went on in practices or what Rose said to him. But I think he got plenty of chances. Still think he should have gone back to starting. Fans did turn on him IMO.

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I also think Provo gave him plenty of chances. And feels it's too bad that he left. One of the more exciting players to come through BYU in recent times. And this is coming from someone who went from wanting to see Cusick start to loving what Carlino brought to the table. It was interesting to see how fans "turned" on him. I feel he was always the same player. Sometimes it helped BYU, sometimes it hurt BYU. But that was Carlino's game, and I learned to simply enjoy it. Kind of like Max hall at QB.


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BroncoBot wrote:I also think Provo gave him plenty of chances. And feels it's too bad that he left. One of the more exciting players to come through BYU in recent times. And this is coming from someone who went from wanting to see Cusick start to loving what Carlino brought to the table. It was interesting to see how fans "turned" on him. I feel he was always the same player. Sometimes it helped BYU, sometimes it hurt BYU. But that was Carlino's game, and I learned to simply enjoy it. Kind of like Max hall at QB.
One slight dispute with you on this, Max Hall didn't cost us nearly as much as Carlino did in the loss column. When Max tried to force something it was usually to try to win the game or take an advantage - I don't remember Max throwing a deep ball just for kicks to see if someone might happen to catch it. Carlino was king of the heat check, but regardless if he made it or not he just kept firing away. Carlino had plenty of chances and would have been the undisputed starter last year and this coming year if he only controlled his game and listened to the coaches a bit. He would have been the difference maker if he would have been humble enough to take some coaching.


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BYULV wrote:
BroncoBot wrote:I also think Provo gave him plenty of chances. And feels it's too bad that he left. One of the more exciting players to come through BYU in recent times. And this is coming from someone who went from wanting to see Cusick start to loving what Carlino brought to the table. It was interesting to see how fans "turned" on him. I feel he was always the same player. Sometimes it helped BYU, sometimes it hurt BYU. But that was Carlino's game, and I learned to simply enjoy it. Kind of like Max hall at QB.
One slight dispute with you on this, Max Hall didn't cost us nearly as much as Carlino did in the loss column. When Max tried to force something it was usually to try to win the game or take an advantage - I don't remember Max throwing a deep ball just for kicks to see if someone might happen to catch it. Carlino was king of the heat check, but regardless if he made it or not he just kept firing away. Carlino had plenty of chances and would have been the undisputed starter last year and this coming year if he only controlled his game and listened to the coaches a bit. He would have been the difference maker if he would have been humble enough to take some coaching.
EXACTLY.

He liked everything except getting told what to do.


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So the translation is I really didn't want to be coached and told how to improve my game.


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SpiffCoug wrote:So the translation is I really didn't want to be coached and told how to improve my game.
Yes, essentially. Not basing it on actual fact, but simply on circumstantial evidence as witnessed by his play on the court and knowledge of how BYU plays BBall and how the game is played in general.


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BYULV wrote:Carlino had plenty of chances and would have been the undisputed starter last year and this coming year if he only controlled his game and listened to the coaches a bit.
Are you aware of what the coaches said to Carlino and in what cases he purposefully defied their instructions? How do you make that observation from just watching the games? I've watched just about every game Carlino played in as a Cougar and never got the sense Carlino was disobeying orders.

Rose: Matt, could you play more consistently please? If only you controlled the ball more we'd win games.
Matt: Pshh...whatever, Coach. Matty Basketball plays as recklessly as he wants to.

Maybe it went down like that. Maybe it didn't. We don't know and to presume we do is...well...mighty presumptuous of us.


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