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Postby BroncoBot » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:50 pm

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomasso ... propaganda

Well thought out article on the topic of gun control in the US. Mirrors my views of the issues. And I'm not someone who has a ton of semi-auto weapons or anything, but I do trust those weapons in the hands of our citizenry.
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Postby Mars » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:53 am

A stabbing spree in Utah was stopped the other day by one citizen with a gun.

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Postby snoscythe » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:28 am

Mars wrote:A stabbing spree in Utah was stopped the other day by one citizen with a gun.

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And a guy in gun-free China went on a stabbing spree the other day and killed 9 people, and wounded a number more.

Apparently he tried to turn it into a mass-murder/suicide, but in gun-free China the suicide part is a bit tougher, and the armed police were able to stop him before he could get to the top of a building to jump off.

Seriously.


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Postby BoiseBYU » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:19 pm

I recognize the right to bear arms. I do not think it is absolute any more than our first amendment rights are not subject to restriction and regulation. Thus, I support restriction of armored piercing bullets and assault rifles and tighter background checks of gun purchasers. I'm not trying to start a storm or anything but am interested in other's thoughts
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Postby hawkwing » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:39 pm

Please define the term assault rifles, and why they should be banned.

I do not believe any non automatic rifles should be banned.
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Postby BoiseBYU » Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:01 pm

hawkwing wrote:Please define the term assault rifles, and why they should be banned.

I do not believe any non automatic rifles should be banned.


Well I have understood assault rifles to be automatic. Wikipedia speaks of them in those terms. Perhaps I err? The automatic nature of them pose to great a threat to cause great harm is why I support their ban. But some disagree and I don't understand why
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Postby hawkwing » Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:05 pm

Automatic rifles are already banned except in rare cases. I believe you likely are under a mistaken view caused by media sensationalism. There has never, to my knowledge been a deadly shooting in the united states by a lawfully obtained automatic rifle.
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Postby BoiseBYU » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:02 pm

hawkwing wrote:Automatic rifles are already banned except in rare cases. I believe you likely are under a mistaken view caused by media sensationalism. There has never, to my knowledge been a deadly shooting in the united states by a lawfully obtained automatic rifle.


I am glad they are banned. If my memory is close, when Congress passed the law banning these guns, there was strident opposition. I do not get that at all. I do note that some of these semi automatic weapons can be emptied in very very order. I do not think i am being sucked in by the sensationalism that surrounds the issue and hope you aren't either. BTW you have the best clip with Riley's high five.
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Postby hawkwing » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:01 am

BoiseBYU wrote:
hawkwing wrote:Automatic rifles are already banned except in rare cases. I believe you likely are under a mistaken view caused by media sensationalism. There has never, to my knowledge been a deadly shooting in the united states by a lawfully obtained automatic rifle.


I am glad they are banned. If my memory is close, when Congress passed the law banning these guns, there was strident opposition. I do not get that at all. I do note that some of these semi automatic weapons can be emptied in very very order. I do not think i am being sucked in by the sensationalism that surrounds the issue and hope you aren't either. BTW you have the best clip with Riley's high five.


No disrespect intended in my previous comments about the media. I know you're one who always does a lot of research before coming down with an opinion.

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Postby nuk13 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:51 am

Thanks Bbot for posting Sowell's article. I agree with it. If automatic weapons caused crimes committed with guns, then Switzerland would be one of the leaders in gun crimes in the world. It's as I heard once: a guy got his gun out, loaded it and set it on the table. He watched it for some time and it never did go off. I saw a talk show years ago where the host had T. Selleck on and was attacking him for believing in the 2nd amendment. She opined that the 2nd was written when there were muzzle loaders,but didn't fit today with automatics with high content magazines. My question is: Which is more dangerous, a person with a Browning .50 out shooting old wrecked cars in the desert, or someone with a loaded muzzle loader pointing it at you?

By the way, John Browning was a returned missionary. He firearms not only helped our troops in WWII, but most all the British and American aircraft that brought down the Luftwaffe were employing his guns. He played a huge part in our victory over Japan and Germany.
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