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my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby CougarClaw » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:50 pm

1. Financial mismanagement. 4 straight, unprecedented years of Trillion + budget deficits. We’re on track to hit $20,000,000,000,000.00 in National Debt by 2016 if Obama is re-elected. This is financial disaster of epic proportions.

2. Blame Culture- GOP and Tea party Stonewalling definitely played a significant role to today’s Washington culture. We can vote them out too. But the responsibility for action lies with the executive branch and this president will be known for his ‘blame Bush’, ‘blame GOP’, ‘blame the Rich’, blame business and blame bank strategies. They’ve worked very well. But his job is to assume responsibility and to execute. He’s done neither. His most significant accomplishment, Obamacare, passed without a single GOP vote.

3. GM Bankruptcy- bankruptcy laws are very clear. Certain parties have better claims to the bankrupt assets in and established order which allows lenders and stakeholders the ability to plan for risk. Obama, illegally and inappropriately, advanced the UAW union’s interest to the front of the line during the GM bankruptcy. While seemingly innocuous, this intervention was one of several actions taken by Obama that introduced heightened levels of risk and volatility of doing business in this country. Risk and volatility are job and economy killers.

4. Unemployment. Obama inherited the largest recession since the Great Depression and proceeded to preside over the longest recession recovery in history. I don’t buy Clinton’s argument that “no one could have fixed it” for a moment. Not a single moment. I think it was 46 straight weeks of unemployment over 8% which is more of a symptom of severe domestic policy failures.

5. The #1 problem during the recession was falling house values. In 2009, 1 in 4 houses were underwater. Today, that number is virtually the same. President Obama attempted a few small programs to address the problem (but nothing as comprehensive or large like the Frank Dodd legislation that attacked the banking and business industries) but the largest problem of the 2008 recession, and the largest source for American middle-class wealth, personal home ownership, remains unaddressed. In my opinion he didn’t even try to fix the housing market.

6. Another major cause for the recession was bank risk-taking. Obama’s answer was Frank-Dodd legislation. Yet despite the mountains of new costs and regulations the banks deemed “too big to fail” are even bigger than before. To make matters worse is the banks now have perfect knowledge what happens when they take enough risk as to jeapoardize the financial system: the government bails them out. Great incentive. Even worse, years after Frank Dodd passed, regulations part of this monstrosity are STILL not finalized in committees adding to the volatile business environment. Problem = not solved.

7. Foreign Policy. Obama has negotiated 0 trade agreements. Zero. China has negotiated hundreds during that same time span. Despite paying Arabs billions in foreign aid, they now hate us more than before Obama’s presidency. Israel has been marginalized, Iran is 4 years closer to a Nuclear weapon, 12 countries have sanction waivers to purchase oil from iran, and Egypt just elected a President from the Muslim Brotherhood. Oh, and Libya killed four unarmed americans.

8. Obamacare – Massive increase in medical benefits and coverages without the money to pay for it or the doctors to administer millions of new eligible patients. First government tax ever on citizenry inaction (or is it a penalty, Mr. president?) . Fails to address any of the core problems causing the out of control costs of American medical insurance that we continue to see today such as the 3rd party payer system, malpractice lawsuits, state by state regulation and lack of market competition. Premiums have risen by $2500 and we don’t have the doctors to treat the millions of new customers seeking care.

9. Lack of Leadership: 0 Federal spending budgets passed in 4 years. Gross negligence of Jobs Council, Intelligence briefings, and Debt Committees. Presided over the first ever downgrade of American credit in history. 412 hours spent in economic meetings compared to 600 hours playing golf. Skips meetings with Israel but manages to attend fund raisers and late-night TV shows.

10. Questionable Legal actions:
• Proliferation of un-elected Czars.
• Fast and Furious scandal where Americans were killed and documents implicating WH officials were protected through inappropriate use of executive privilege.
• Executive branch “legislating” new laws by refusal to enforce existing (albeit conflicted) immigration laws.
• White House had knowledge of impending attacks on Libyan embassy yet the handful of Marine guards were not warned or even issued bullets. They and the ambassador were all killed while the administration (see point 2) blames an obscure, 4-month old youtube video.
• Forcing the Catholic church to provide contraceptives in Catholic hospitals against their beliefs.
• Cited by Attorney Generals from 9 states for 21 illegal actions
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Re: my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby Ddawg » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:39 pm

My #1 reason to not vote for Obama - he's a Lying Phony!!!! (Fairly direct and succinct)

Remember the video of then candidate Obama in 2007 at Hampton University in 2007? It re-surfaced about 3-4 weeks ago unedited. Obama is addressing a predominantly African American audience.

He addresses how racist the U.S. govt. is. He discusses 3 disasters: 1. New York and 9-11. 2. Hurricane Andrew in Florida. 3. Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.

Obama's big point was - Federal aid poured into New York and Florida, and the Stafford Act was waived (not requiring the state govt. to match the Federal Disaster aide with 10% funds.

Well - Obama was so flippin' incensed because for New York and Florida the Stafford Act was waived. For New Orleans, according to Obama, it was NOT waived and they demanded the 10% matching funds. Obama concludes - they just don't care about you the way they care about those other folks.

Here's the catch - Obama made that speech @ Hampton Univ. on June 5, 2007.

But, hold on ...... prior to that speech, then Sen. Obama, voted on May 24, 2007 (about 2 weeks earlier) against waving the Stafford Act for New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina. Whaaaat? He attacked the Federal govt., claiming a racially charged meanness that did not exist. The waiving of the Stafford Act vote occurred 2 weeks before Obama gave this speech at Hampton. He knew that.

A total of 14 Senators voted against waving the Act. The record shows Obama was present and voted to NOT wave the law. He is very dishonest. The bill passed - against Obama's effort. Obama is a race baiting, phony liar.

Watch the video of Obama's speech ~

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/02/obama ... w-orleans/

I'm not even going to start on the Fast and Furious cover-up, and the Bhenghazi lies and cover-up.
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Re: my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby tww » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:31 pm

CougarClaw wrote:
2. Blame Culture- GOP and Tea party Stonewalling definitely played a significant role to today’s Washington culture. We can vote them out too.


This makes no sense to me. It seems to me that "stonewalling" is exactly the responsibility of both the Tea Party and GOP when there is no other way to stop fascists/socialists.

What are they supposed to do, capitulate?
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Re: my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby snoscythe » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:30 pm

What do you think did more to save Detroit--(i) the tax-payer subsidy to the unions in lieu of structured bankruptcy, or (ii) the Japanese tsunami that sidelined the Japanese auto industry for nearly two years?

I'll give you a hint--GM started circling the drain again in earnest when Japan came back online.
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Re: my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby BoiseBYU » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:42 pm

I think reason number one is quite valid. I don't agree with the others cited, but can see where you are coming from. Oh and in addition to number one, I agree with number 9 -- a lack of leadership. That is a concern for me too. I'm still undecided, which matters not one whit in Idaho, but I really don't know enough yet for why I should vote for Gov. Romney. So thought provoking and thanks.
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Re: my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby tww » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:53 pm

BoiseBYU wrote:I think reason number one is quite valid. I don't agree with the others cited, but can see where you are coming from. Oh and in addition to number one, I agree with number 9 -- a lack of leadership. That is a concern for me too. I'm still undecided, which matters not one whit in Idaho, but I really don't know enough yet for why I should vote for Gov. Romney. So thought provoking and thanks.



Isn't the fact that Obama is the worst disaster of a president in American history enough of a reason?
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Re: my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby Ddawg » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:29 pm

snoscythe wrote:What do you think did more to save Detroit--(i) the tax-payer subsidy to the unions in lieu of structured bankruptcy, or (ii) the Japanese tsunami that sidelined the Japanese auto industry for nearly two years?

I'll give you a hint--GM started circling the drain again in earnest when Japan came back online.


Bingo. Good point.
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Re: my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby tww » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:51 pm

snoscythe wrote:What do you think did more to save Detroit--(i) the tax-payer subsidy to the unions in lieu of structured bankruptcy, or (ii) the Japanese tsunami that sidelined the Japanese auto industry for nearly two years?

I'll give you a hint--GM started circling the drain again in earnest when Japan came back online.


Obama caused the tsunami? His press team has really dropped the ball on this one. (TIC)
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Re: my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby mizzoucoug » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:05 pm

tww wrote:
CougarClaw wrote:
2. Blame Culture- GOP and Tea party Stonewalling definitely played a significant role to today’s Washington culture. We can vote them out too.


This makes no sense to me. It seems to me that "stonewalling" is exactly the responsibility of both the Tea Party and GOP when there is no other way to stop fascists/socialists.

What are they supposed to do, capitulate?


Liberals' goal is to take us all the way to a dictatorship/statism. So when they have full control of the gov't they speed up this process. When the GOP and Tea Party is in power but still compromises and gives into their corrupt demands all we are doing is slightly slowing the move toward totalitarianism.

It may not be a popular approach because we Republicans tend to believe in being the nice guy, but NO MORE COMPROMISE WITH LIBERALS ON ANYTHING! Remember Wisconsin? Liberals are the minority (but they are loud) and we need to deal with them as such.
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Re: my Top 10 reasons to not vote Obama (LONG)

Postby BoiseBYU » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:00 pm

tww wrote:
BoiseBYU wrote:I think reason number one is quite valid. I don't agree with the others cited, but can see where you are coming from. Oh and in addition to number one, I agree with number 9 -- a lack of leadership. That is a concern for me too. I'm still undecided, which matters not one whit in Idaho, but I really don't know enough yet for why I should vote for Gov. Romney. So thought provoking and thanks.



Isn't the fact that Obama is the worst disaster of a president in American history enough of a reason?


With respect, I do not agree with your asserted "fact." And as disappointing as Obama has been to me, Romney and a republican controlled Congress could be worse. I am studying and pondering.
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