Romney on Trump

[BoiseBYU]

I do not agree with your assessment, but let's hope neither one of us has to find out if our fears are realized or not.

What assessment do you disagree with: that Hillary Clinton and Marco Rubio have lost all reason when it comes to foreign policy or that Trump is the most sane on foreign policy.

Now I wouldn't go so far as to say Trump's foreign policy is sane, he endorses torture and murdering the children of criminals (though that has been the official US policy for many years) and his economic foreign policy hasn't been outlined in depth, but I'll take what he's saying over the insanity of the past 25 years Hillary and Marco keep pushing.

I said that I am less certain that the Republic will survive a Trump presidency than HRC, and you discarded that concern as nothing more serious than a mere meme. I don't agree. What economic foreign policy Trump has talked about are actions that would essentially begin a number of trade wars. I think that would be bad too.

[jvquarterback]

I said that I am less certain that the Republic will survive a Trump presidency than HRC, and you discarded that concern as nothing more serious than a mere meme. I don't agree. What economic foreign policy Trump has talked about are actions that would essentially begin a number of trade wars. I think that would be bad too.

What is Trump proposing that is any different than the other candidates and why would the country be any less likely to survive his presidency than anyone else? In particular I think the continued foreign policy endorsed by Clinton and Rubio is far more damaging to the country than anything Trump has proposed.

Other than his trade war talk, which I don't really believe, and even taken to the extreme isn't much different than the protectionist garbage the US has used to help special interests for the past 150 years, Trump hasn't said anything that would put the country at risk.

The garbage about Trump being a huge risk to the country is a meme with no backing in reality and you haven't made any argument in favor of you conclusion so how can anyone do anything except reject it as such?

[BroncoBot]

I'm not concerned about Trump becoming the next Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini. I think it's fear-mongering to make those comparisons. Trump is so disliked by both the Dems and the establishment GOP that he would be impeached before it got to that point.

I think you've nailed it. Fears about Trump being a military dictator is unfounded.

Here's how Mussolini came to power

"Benito Mussolini’s self-confessed “thirst for military glory” battled his acute intelligence, psychological acumen, and political shrewdness for control over his military policies. Originally a revolutionary Socialist, he abandoned his party to advocate Italian intervention in World War I. Following the war, in which he served as a rifleman, Mussolini decided his destiny was to rule Italy as a modern Caesar and re-create the Roman Empire. He forged the paramilitary Fascist movement in 1919-1921, using it to march on Rome, become prime minister, and then to seize dictatorial power (1925-1926)."

Here's how Stalin came to power... (which sounds like Obama to me)

Born into poverty, Stalin became involved in revolutionary politics, as well as criminal activities, as a young man. After Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924) died, Stalin outmaneuvered his rivals for control of the party. Once in power, he collectivized farming and had potential enemies executed or sent to forced labor camps. Stalin aligned with the United States and Britain in World War II (1939-1945) but afterward engaged in an increasingly tense relationship with the West known as the Cold War (1946-1991). After his death, the Soviets initiated a de-Stalinization process.

The US system will have chosen him just like they chose Obama. It will be interesting to see how it turns out. But I doubt it will change much. Until the American moral system improves, I believe God will continue to let us struggle.

[BoiseBYU]

I said that I am less certain that the Republic will survive a Trump presidency than HRC, and you discarded that concern as nothing more serious than a mere meme. I don't agree. What economic foreign policy Trump has talked about are actions that would essentially begin a number of trade wars. I think that would be bad too.

What is Trump proposing that is any different than the other candidates and why would the country be any less likely to survive his presidency than anyone else? In particular I think the continued foreign policy endorsed by Clinton and Rubio is far more damaging to the country than anything Trump has proposed.

Other than his trade war talk, which I don't really believe, and even taken to the extreme isn't much different than the protectionist garbage the US has used to help special interests for the past 150 years, Trump hasn't said anything that would put the country at risk.

The garbage about Trump being a huge risk to the country is a meme with no backing in reality and you haven't made any argument in favor of you conclusion so how can anyone do anything except reject it as such?

I think Trump is different from the other candidates in a variety of ways. To quote Jacob Weisberg "Trump represents what autocratic attitudes look like in a modern American context. He is unfriendly toward the free market, the free press, and the free exercise of religion while paying lip service to these values. He is xenophobic, conspiratorial in his worldview, admiring of violence and torture, contemptuous of the weak, and unwilling to tolerate criticism or peaceful dissent—but all in the name of correcting excesses of tolerance. Various global and historical comparisons shed light on his style and thinking: Perón, de Gaulle, Silvio Berlusconi, Vladimir Putin, and others. But Trump isn’t importing Latin caudillismo or Russian despotism. He bullies those who resist him in the contemporary vernacular of American celebrity culture.

This is why those arguing that Trump’s policies are more moderate than those of his rivals Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio miss the point. Trump’s authoritarianism is an amalgam not of left and right but of wacko left and wacko right: He thinks that George Bush was to blame for 9/11 and that Muslims should be barred from the U.S. Believing both of those things does not make Mr. Trump a centrist—it makes him an eclectic extremist. When it comes to policies, he actually has none in the conventional sense."

My goal is not to try persuade you in any way. It was to respond to how you and I disagree about Trump and why I think he is more dangerous than the other candidates.

[hawkwing]

WTF?

Trump is

[Schmoe]

I'm not a fan of Trump, but we're better than to stoop to using some cleverly-timed photo to try and misrepresent a candidate and their supporters.

[SpiffCoug]

Conservatives used to believe that ideas matter in politics. They used to believe that personal character matters in politics.

Trump has a complete dearth of moral character. He is not a good person. He is a liar. He is an unapologetic adulterer. He is a bully.

Trump is braggadocios about his utter lack of understanding of conservative ideas. He does not espouse conservative ideas that forward a limited government. He is a closet, big government liberal.

There isn't a problem out there that he isn't willing to "solve" by utilizing the government to crush any who oppose him.

He is an indecent individual whom I don't want speaking on behalf of conservatives. He lacks the personal integrity that I don't want him negotiating on behalf of Americans.

I will never vote for him.

[hawkwing]

I'm not a fan of Trump, but we're better than to stoop to using some cleverly-timed photo to try and misrepresent a candidate and their supporters.

Unfortunately these pictures are cropping up from Trump rally after Trump rally. It doesn't appear to be just a cleverly timed photo, but rather a consistent action. Not sure what Trump is hoping to accomplish with this, trolling the media or the non-Trump supporters or what, but it's happening a lot.

[Ddawg]

Conservatives used to believe that ideas matter in politics. They used to believe that personal character matters in politics.

Trump has a complete dearth of moral character. He is not a good person. He is a liar. He is an unapologetic adulterer. He is a bully.

Trump is braggadocios about his utter lack of understanding of conservative ideas. He does not espouse conservative ideas that forward a limited government. He is a closet, big government liberal.

There isn't a problem out there that he isn't willing to "solve" by utilizing the government to crush any who oppose him.

He is an indecent individual whom I don't want speaking on behalf of conservatives. He lacks the personal integrity that I don't want him negotiating on behalf of Americans.

I will never vote for him.

I respect your opinion. But, what would you do if Trump becomes the GOP nominee? I plan to vote for Cruz in the CA primary. But if Trump wins the nomination - I will vote for Trump to stop Hillary. As bad as Trump is - Hillary is pure deceitful evil.

My personal feeling is (and I could be wrong - but I don't think I am) - as evil as Hillary is. I think Trump is full of hot air. I really think Trump's biggest downfall is his ego. He is so full of "braggadocio" crap. Self serving and pompous. But, I do feel he loves the Constitution and the country as it is - based on the principles of our founding fathers.

Whereas Hillary is a gangster - a huge liar that cares nothing for the Constitution or the Founding Fathers. She lies when her lips move. She embraces and wants to continue everything Obama had begun. We cannot endure 4-8 more years of Obama rule. It's got to stop.

My .02

[Schmoe]

I'm not a fan of Trump, but we're better than to stoop to using some cleverly-timed photo to try and misrepresent a candidate and their supporters.

Unfortunately these pictures are cropping up from Trump rally after Trump rally. It doesn't appear to be just a cleverly timed photo, but rather a consistent action. Not sure what Trump is hoping to accomplish with this, trolling the media or the non-Trump supporters or what, but it's happening a lot.

Yes, just like those KKK members in full dress... I think you're falling for something, being duped.