Romney on Trump

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hawkwing wrote:
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hawkwing wrote:People talk about how fascists and socialists have caused the greatest amount of misery in power and rightfully so. Some of the greatest tragedies in the history of the world have come under those forms of government, but what those tragedies also have in common goes deeper than socialism or fascism, it's egocentric, power-hungry leadership of a crazed individual or group of individuals of which is exemplified...
...by Hillary and Bernie. Again, we have the guy that we think might be bad, or the two that we know for sure will be. (really, though, the GOP needs to get it together, Kasich needs to drop out, and all those delegates need to get behind Cruz, because he can win and he's not a monster).
We know Hillary and Bernie are bad, not denying that. I also KNOW that Trump is bad. He has lied, cheated, and done anything he can for money and power. Giving him the keys to the military, IRS, law enforcement, etc. is bad bad bad news for all of America.

At least with Hillary and Bernie they are primarily politicians and are worried about their legacies.
Clinton admitted on Chris Matthews last night she sold her vote on going to Iraq for $20 billion in aid to New York city. She has received millions of dollars from the Saudis, Emirates, and Israelis in exchange for her support. She stood by while her husband abused countless women with his position of power. She left her subordinates to die Benghazi because it was politically inconvenient (and it is very unlikely that was the first time). All so she could gain power. She puts to shame what any of the previous presidents have done, including her husband. There is nothing, nothing Trump has said or done that can even compare to the evil Clinton embodies.

How can you KNOW that Trump is bad? Have you even read his website? How much time have you spent actually reading what he proposes or what he himself has actually said? How much time have you spent reading what other people say he has said? Have you compared that to what Clinton and Sanders have said and propose on their websites? And how much time have you spent reading what they have proposed?

I have to believe you are simply going off of facebook and twitter memes because there is no way anyone who says they prefer Cruz to Clinton would ever even consider taking Clinton over Trump.


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Hillary Clinton is a prostitute. She has sold her vote and positions to the highest bidder.

Donald Trump is a pimp. He pays politicians to vote and use their positions to improve his companies and desires.


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Schmoe wrote:
hawkwing wrote:People talk about how fascists and socialists have caused the greatest amount of misery in power and rightfully so. Some of the greatest tragedies in the history of the world have come under those forms of government, but what those tragedies also have in common goes deeper than socialism or fascism, it's egocentric, power-hungry leadership of a crazed individual or group of individuals of which is exemplified...
...by Hillary and Bernie. Again, we have the guy that we think might be bad, or the two that we know for sure will be. (really, though, the GOP needs to get it together, Kasich needs to drop out, and all those delegates need to get behind Cruz, because he can win and he's not a monster).
I wish that is what had happened, but Kasich won't because the plan is to give the nomination to him at the convention. I wish Cruz would see that that is what they are planning. The establishment is not getting behind him. They are trying to use him to keep the nom from Trump and then they will give it to Kasich. I would much rather prefer Cruz but I definitely do not want Kasich or any of his ilk. If Cruz and Trump would consider a Cruz VP, I think they could be a strong team. But Cruz has no chance. The establishment WILL NOT settle for Cruz.

Just a point on Donald. He has proposed three plans, healthcare, immigration, and economy. All of them are conservative. I think "the Don" is an executive that likes to have an idea and then let his people get them done. And so far he has been reaching out to the right people (such as Sessions for immigration) to come up with the plans.

Kasich on the other hand has gone the exact opposite direction (in the first 100 days of my administration we will get amnesty passed). The establishment is so out of touch I think they believe they actually are popular and everyone likes them. Meanwhile they listen to every thing the dems tell them and take it for gospel. As if the dems would ever give them good advice. And even if they tried their advice would still be wrong!

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imuakahuku wrote: I wish that is what had happened, but Kasich won't because the plan is to give the nomination to him at the convention. I wish Cruz would see that that is what they are planning. The establishment is not getting behind him. They are trying to use him to keep the nom from Trump and then they will give it to Kasich.
Interesting, because Romney clearly wants that nomination.


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Mars wrote:
imuakahuku wrote: I wish that is what had happened, but Kasich won't because the plan is to give the nomination to him at the convention. I wish Cruz would see that that is what they are planning. The establishment is not getting behind him. They are trying to use him to keep the nom from Trump and then they will give it to Kasich.
Interesting, because Romney clearly wants that nomination.
Yeah he clearly wants it but it is too late. Especially since Kasich won Ohio. They are going to try and use that to explain why they are giving him the nomination. It would be way harder to explain giving it to Romney and the two are pretty much interchangeable. Now the GOP is saying the delegates don't have to wait until the second vote to vote for whoever they want. Doesn't that make you feel warm and fuzzy that these people who are so much smarter than us will make the best choices for us, even when we think we know what we want. Boy those people in DC are so grand. I think they all deserve a raise. :utard:

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Kasich is a bum. If this happens, the Republican brass need to be ousted.


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snoscythe wrote:Trump is a salesman first and foremost--right now he is selling himself to the angry right. THIS IS AS CONSERVATIVE AS HE'S EVER GOING TO BE, and he's not that conservative (see: comments about how Planned Parenthood does good work, the individual mandate needs to stay, etc.). If and when he secures the GOP nomination, his focus will change to making a sale with the rest of America, and he will skew to the left. He's selling snake oil, and only those blinded by anger are buying it.
Well spoken, Sno. Trump is a dangerous man. We are in trouble in a big way if Trump, Hillary or Sanders get into office. I believe that the only reason Trump left the Democratic Party is that he saw more opportunity for himself in the Republican Party.


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bigbluepuma wrote:
snoscythe wrote:Trump is a salesman first and foremost--right now he is selling himself to the angry right. THIS IS AS CONSERVATIVE AS HE'S EVER GOING TO BE, and he's not that conservative (see: comments about how Planned Parenthood does good work, the individual mandate needs to stay, etc.). If and when he secures the GOP nomination, his focus will change to making a sale with the rest of America, and he will skew to the left. He's selling snake oil, and only those blinded by anger are buying it.
Well spoken, Sno. Trump is a dangerous man. We are in trouble in a big way if Trump, Hillary or Sanders get into office. I believe that the only reason Trump left the Democratic Party is that he saw more opportunity for himself in the Republican Party.
probably true, but it should not be the republican party leadership deciding who is going to run as their puppet. Why go through this dog and pony show called the primaries if you're going to throw out the votes and put Romney or Kasich or any other candidate X who couldn't win a dang thing in the primaries. You do that and your election is OVER AGAIN YOU DUMBIES. How you lost to obama in 2012 is still a huge mystery. Obama set all sorts of records for ways he SHOULD NOT HAVE WON that election and you idiots fumbled it away.


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BroncoBot wrote: probably true, but it should not be the republican party leadership deciding who is going to run as their puppet. Why go through this dog and pony show called the primaries if you're going to throw out the votes and put Romney or Kasich or any other candidate X who couldn't win a dang thing in the primaries. You do that and your election is OVER AGAIN YOU DUMBIES. How you lost to obama in 2012 is still a huge mystery. Obama set all sorts of records for ways he SHOULD NOT HAVE WON that election and you idiots fumbled it away.
Trump can't win either. Even Utah would vote for Hillary Clinton.


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