Trump a disaster for the Nation and Republicans

[billbillbillbill]

On the flip side, I see polls like this...



and doesn't this just scream 2008 John McCain all over again. He was the only one that could beat Hillary back then. Is there a candidate with a realistic chance of beating the democrats?

[hawkwing]

On the flip side, I see polls like this...



and doesn't this just scream 2008 John McCain all over again. He was the only one that could beat Hillary back then. Is there a candidate with a realistic chance of beating the democrats?

Not anymore.

[Ddawg]

One of the countless reasons why so many people are adamantly opposed to Donald Trump is because it has been proven and consistently shown that Trump has less than no chance of winning a general election. If Trump wins the nomination the election is already over and Hillary is the new President.

This Hawk - I accept - and it holds weight in my mind. It's objective data. Personally, I do not care how many women a man has slept with. Obviously it is better, and desirable, if he has good moral scruples in his personal life. But to me, it's not a deal breaker. Bigger fish to fry.

What is more critical is, will he follow the Constitution. Will he defend the Constitution. Will be protect the borders and the security if American citizens. Will he support laws - enforce them and not do lawless end runs around Congress with Executive Orders. Will he appoint Conservative Supreme Court Justices? Will he reign in our ballooning national debt.

[hawkwing]

One of the countless reasons why so many people are adamantly opposed to Donald Trump is because it has been proven and consistently shown that Trump has less than no chance of winning a general election. If Trump wins the nomination the election is already over and Hillary is the new President.

This Hawk - I accept - and it holds weight in my mind. It's objective data. Personally, I do not care how many women a man has slept with. Obviously is is better, and desirable if he has good moral scruples in his personal life. But to me, it's not a deal breaker. Bigger fish to fry.

What is more critical is, will he follow the Constitution. Will he defend the Constitution. Will be protect the borders and the security if American citizens. Will he support laws - enforce them and not do lawless end runs around Congress with Executive Orders. Will he appoint Conservative Supreme Court Justices? Will he reign in our ballooning national debt.

It seems to me he has proven in his dealings as a businessman and his statements in the press, including during the very election cycle where he has said he would undermine the Constitution, remove 1st amendment rights from reporters, torture and kill people, and use government agencies to punish his enemies you'll join me in doing everything you can to make sure he doesn't get elected.

[BroncoBot]

One of the countless reasons why so many people are adamantly opposed to Donald Trump is because it has been proven and consistently shown that Trump has less than no chance of winning a general election. If Trump wins the nomination the election is already over and Hillary is the new President.

This Hawk - I accept - and it holds weight in my mind. It's objective data. Personally, I do not care how many women a man has slept with. Obviously is is better, and desirable if he has good moral scruples in his personal life. But to me, it's not a deal breaker. Bigger fish to fry.

What is more critical is, will he follow the Constitution. Will he defend the Constitution. Will be protect the borders and the security if American citizens. Will he support laws - enforce them and not do lawless end runs around Congress with Executive Orders. Will he appoint Conservative Supreme Court Justices? Will he reign in our ballooning national debt.

It seems to me he has proven in his dealings as a businessman and his statements in the press, including during the very election cycle where he has said he would undermine the Constitution, remove 1st amendment rights from reporters, torture and kill people, and use government agencies to punish his enemies you'll join me in doing everything you can to make sure he doesn't get elected.

OK, so he gets elected. You dont think that Hillary would do the same? They're both pond scum. Doesn't matter either way, I'm not wasting energy on it.

[jvquarterback]

It seems to me he has proven in his dealings as a businessman and his statements in the press, including during the very election cycle where he has said he would undermine the Constitution, remove 1st amendment rights from reporters, torture and kill people, and use government agencies to punish his enemies.

False. True. True.

And that is how every candidate would answer if they had to answer truthfully. Stop with the superficial mantra that there is any real difference between Trump and the other turds running for president.

[Ddawg]

One of the countless reasons why so many people are adamantly opposed to Donald Trump is because it has been proven and consistently shown that Trump has less than no chance of winning a general election. If Trump wins the nomination the election is already over and Hillary is the new President.

It seems to me he has proven in his dealings as a businessman and his statements in the press, including during the very election cycle where he has said he would undermine the Constitution,

With all due respect - I don't think Trump would undermine the Constitution. No doubt, Trump is an aggressive,businessman - real aggressive. I would not conduct business as he has. On the other hand, lots of people who do business with Trump say he is honest and support him.

As a Constitutional issue - just take the border. Hillary is an "Open Border" politician. In direct violation of federal law. Hillary does not like the 2nd Amendment - and likens gun and ammo manufacturers to terrorists. Unconscionable! Hillary attack cops - supports the Black Lives Matters communists. Unconscionable! You would vote for Hillary who's an anti cop, anti gun, open border socialist over an arrogant man who is a huge supporter of cops, gun ownership, and enforcing federal law on the border.

remove 1st amendment rights from reporters,

I don't think so - again - with all due respect. What Trump said was - Last month at a rally in Texas, he said he would “open up” libel laws to make it easier to sue news organizations for “purposely negative and horrible and false articles.”

So, should the media be held responsible for printing false stories about a candidate? I think so. Look how Mitt Romney was demeaned - slandered - and libeled. His reputation was slimed by liberal politicians (slime-ball Harry Reid) and liberal news outlets. I personally think news outlets, media, and politicians should NOT be protected from saying or printing falsehoods about their political opposition. Lying to destroy a political opponent is scuzzball tactics. It should be held accountable. Now, exactly what would that standard be? It's for the Supreme Court to decide. The current libel standard was set in 1964 in the ruling "Sullivan vs New York". Is it time to update that ruling? I think so. Seeing how vicious and dishonest the media has become today, I think I agree with Trump on this one. But, it's for the courts to work out where the bar is set.

torture and kill people,

It depends on what your definition of "torture" is. Are we talking about waterboarding? I am all for it. Q: How many people dies at the hands of the USA while being waterboarded? Zero. How much valuable information was attained? Invaluable info that helped us effectively fight Terrorism at the time, and eventually get Obama bin Laden. It's a tool - very effective - no permanent damage.

Kill people? If they are terrorists - kill them all. The problem with Obama and the liberals is - they are aggressive towards Fox News, Conservative Christians, and Tea Party folks. ISIS and Muslim terrorists? Well, they're the JV team. Kick the can down the road. If I was president - 60 days and ISIS would cease to control any territory in Iraq or Syria. Then the "mop up" phase would begin - low intensity operations.

IMHO - the problem with the Middle East is - we're not killing enough of the right people - period. Obama is a Muslim apologist - and ignores the real problem while the cancer spreads. Both Cruz and Trump swill aggressively go after the cancer.

use government agencies to punish his enemies you'll

Obama has been using the government for years (the IRS) to go after the Tea Party folks. No other president has used the full weight of the federal govt (as Obama has) to crush and silence political opposition. Obama and his IRS are still doing it. I sincerely do not believe Trump will go after people with the IRS. It's Gestapo tactics, but, Obama is a socialist. He'll have advisors that will strongly advise to not act like Obama. That's a big deterrent - as Trump despises Obama.

join me in doing everything you can to make sure he doesn't get elected.

Absolutely - I will join you and vote for Ted Cruz - and do all I can to help Cruz win the nomination. However, if Trump is the GOP nominee. I will support him 100% over the lying criminal Hillary Clinton who is owned by foreign govt's and Wall Street.

[BOID]

Well said, Ddawg. Trump, as flawed as he is, would be by far the lesser evil than any of the Obama-third-term candidates. The Dems do not have any candidates that are not the latter.

[BOID]

It seems that many folks are unaware of the level of damage already done to our constitution by Obama. The damage will become permanent if his crimes against the U.S. Constitution are not prosecuted. Legal precedent will become established for ignoring the constitution if no indictment or challenge occurs. So far, this evil man and his communist entourage are getting away with it all.

Bruce Jenner may be a tranny, but he got it right when he said that Hillary would be the same as another Obama, and that "America is through, if Hillary is elected." Hillary already has a track record for being criminal, deceitful, and completely corrupt, and communist. She makes semantically challenged Trump look like a saint.

We cannot afford, or survive a Hillary continuation of Obama-style tyranny. It would mean a loss of our way of life, human dignity, The American Dream, for our children and grandchildren. They may have to fight a war to recover their "inalienable human rights."

By the way, I never said that I liked Trump. Just tying to keep things in perspective.

[Ddawg]

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