Starting to lean towards Evan McMullin for President

[nuk13]

I don't think that is true Hawk. I do agree with you Sno on your first point. On your second point, although I don't live in Utah I would be very happy if you who do would vote for McMullin or anyone else to get rid of Hatch. One of our senators in Idaho is running for his 4th term but I'm through voting for him. I believe that, besides despots in the oval office, the inability of people to turn over politicians is about the worst thing happening in our country.

[hawkwing]

I don't think that is true Hawk. I do agree with you Sno on your first point. On your second point, although I don't live in Utah I would be very happy if you who do would vote for McMullin or anyone else to get rid of Hatch. One of our senators in Idaho is running for his 4th term but I'm through voting for him. I believe that, besides despots in the oval office, the inability of people to turn over politicians is about the worst thing happening in our country.

What part do you not think is true? It's already been proven by Wikileaks that Hillary and her people wanted nothing more than to run against Trump, and the Russian connection to Trump is also extremely well established.

[BlueK]

Trump supporters and their terroristic threats to an Arizona newspaper for not endorsing Trump:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/ ... /92058964/

[SpiffCoug]

Trump supporters and their terroristic threats to an Arizona newspaper for not endorsing Trump:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/ ... /92058964/

Of course, words are always worse than actions. How much coverage has there been over the fire bombing of the GOP's offices in North Carolina?

Remember, the Left is almost always more violent than the Right. And the people almost always suffer more under Leftist governments and ideologies than Rightist.

[BlueK]

Trump supporters and their terroristic threats to an Arizona newspaper for not endorsing Trump:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/ ... /92058964/

Of course, words are always worse than actions. How much coverage has there been over the fire bombing of the GOP's offices in North Carolina?

Remember, the Left is almost always more violent than the Right. And the people almost always suffer more under Leftist governments and ideologies than Rightist.

Trump is leftist then. The old leftist vs. rightist thing doesn't accurately capture things anymore, IMO. I think it's more accurate to characterize by limited government vs. authoritarianism. Both major parties have nominated people who fall toward authoritarianism this time. But Trump's defeat is the only way the GOP can correct this for the future and go back to what they should represent.

I could point you to actual Trump quotes that show that he is hostile to pretty much every single thing in our Bill of Rights except the 2nd amendment. There will be a lot of suffering in that dept. if he wins.

To me it's not really relevant whether these people will actually carry out the violence they're threatening here. Hopefully they wouldn't. But I don't think we should elect someone who panders to those freaks. These are the type of people who bombed OKC, so they do actually carry out violence. Also, it wasn't that long ago they bombed that Jewish school in California. All of those groups are all very excitedly behind Trump. I don't care if they're characterized as leftist or rightist. They all really like Trump, and I don't want to associate with them in any way.

[SpiffCoug]

Good point! Trump is a Lefty. Dang it! I forgot. I still can't believe how stupid the GOP and its voters were to nominate him.

[BlueK]

Trump couldn't even get 50% of the GOP primary voters to vote for him, and that includes a dozen states at the end who voted after everyone else had dropped out.'

Most Republicans voted for someone else.

[snoscythe]

McMullin made his first big flub over the weekend -- admitting his primary purpose is to deny Trump the presidency. That will cost him.

Not that this surprises anyone who pauses to evaluate his strategy. He's been focusing his efforts in Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah---all states that one would generally assume are safely in the GOP's pocket. He doesn't have a serious campaign in any state that otherwise would be assumed to go to Hillary or even be a battleground state. He's not targeting Dem votes--he's targeting newly disenfranchised GOP voters.

The only way his strategy makes sense is if the Donald were in position to otherwise win the election, which he's not.

I'm not voting for either Hillary or Trump, but the more I look into McMullin, the less his entire candidacy makes any sense, whatsoever.

[BlueK]

McMullin made his first big flub over the weekend -- admitting his primary purpose is to deny Trump the presidency. That will cost him.

Not that this surprises anyone who pauses to evaluate his strategy. He's been focusing his efforts in Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah---all states that one would generally assume are safely in the GOP's pocket. He doesn't have a serious campaign in any state that otherwise would be assumed to go to Hillary or even be a battleground state. He's not targeting Dem votes--he's targeting newly disenfranchised GOP voters.

The only way his strategy makes sense is if the Donald were in position to otherwise win the election, which he's not.

I'm not voting for either Hillary or Trump, but the more I look into McMullin, the less his entire candidacy makes any sense, whatsoever.

Why target dems? He doesn't have positions that would appeal to dems.

Why target states where he didn't have enough time to get onto the ballot?

Of course he wants Trump to lose. That doesn't hurt him with voters who share that desire but don't want to actually vote for Hillary.

[BlueK]

Trump supporters and their terroristic threats to an Arizona newspaper for not endorsing Trump:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/ ... /92058964/

Of course, words are always worse than actions. How much coverage has there been over the fire bombing of the GOP's offices in North Carolina?

There has been WAY MORE coverage of the bombing in NC than about the threats to the Arizona Republic. It's not even in the same universe.

Also, something about this is fishy if you ask me. Sure, it could be some wacko Hillary supporter, but if you ask the question of who actually benefits more from this tragedy in NC, it's Trump. I wouldn't be that shocked if the investigation discovers that white nationalists were behind it. It's not like they like the GOP establishment.