BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games

[Gunk]

I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.

Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.

[hawkwing]

I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.

[Mars]

I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.

In Michigan, there were several large motorcycle events each year, and no one ever seemed upset by members attending church on Sunday in their riding leathers. Pretty cool, imo.

[snoscythe]

I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.

But those heathens in Idaho....

[hawkwing]

I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.

But those heathens in Idaho....

Don't even get me started on THAT group!

[BoiseBYU]

I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.

But those heathens in Idaho....

Don't even get me started on THAT group!

We're beyond the pale

[Mars]

I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.

But those heathens in Idaho....

Don't even get me started on THAT group!

We're beyond the pale

And beside the pail (you know, for milking).

[BroncoBot]

I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.

Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.

Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .

[hawkwing]

I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.

Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.

Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .

I do not believe there are any exceptions allowed to the rule of being clean shaven. If that option is unavailable to you, you will be invited to serve in other ways, I imagine.

[byufan4ever]

I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.

Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.

Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .

I do not believe there are any exceptions allowed to the rule of being clean shaven. If that option is unavailable to you, you will be invited to serve in other ways, I imagine.

I thought they were joking. So if someone has a beard they really can't be a temple worker?