Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
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Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
Linked for Truth:
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Note that ANY sanction by the NCAA on Monday just shreds any semblence of credibility for the organization.
courtesy of a mcgregor "like" on Facebook.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footba ... me_oneline" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note that ANY sanction by the NCAA on Monday just shreds any semblence of credibility for the organization.
courtesy of a mcgregor "like" on Facebook.
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Re: Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
And FWIW, if the NCAA levies any sanctions tomorrow on the basis of the Freeh report or the criminal case (as opposed the NCAA's own investigation--as required by NCAA bylaws), I hope PSU sues the hell out of the NCAA.
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Re: Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
What's odd to me is how quickly the NCAA is acting since the Freeh report has been released. It's not uncommon for the NCAA to use court records and a school's own investigations as part of their investigation. However, usually they let the school get out in front by allowing them to inflict their own punishment before the NCAA either ratifies that punishment or adds additional punishment.
That's not the case here. The Freeh Report comes out and then a week later the punishment will be handed out by the NCAA.
That's not the case here. The Freeh Report comes out and then a week later the punishment will be handed out by the NCAA.
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Re: Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
This article addresses the fact that the NCAA feels like they don't have to go through their normal protocol. And for Sno's sake, PSU has hired an attorney.
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Re: Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
Penn State may have negotiated with NCAA and agreed to the sanctions. No death penalty. But they were hit hard and have put the statue in storage. Should have destroyed the statue - issue will resurface as long as it is in storage.
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Anae just might be the guy. Wisconsin DC says Anae is totally unpredictable because he just runs a bunch of plays with no rhyme or reason. Whooped Butt on Houston DC for 3 of 4 quarters. Destroyed Texas DC and HC careers.
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Re: Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
Juice left suddenly. I wondered which walkon might benefit. PSU players can now transfer without sitting. I wonder if many will leave. There probably are players with experience that could come fill a hole - like 2013 QB, or 2012 FB, TE, or OL or 2013 DL or OL.
Not likely that all will leave or that any would come here.
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Anae just might be the guy. Wisconsin DC says Anae is totally unpredictable because he just runs a bunch of plays with no rhyme or reason. Whooped Butt on Houston DC for 3 of 4 quarters. Destroyed Texas DC and HC careers.
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Re: Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
Very interesting article and points that it brings up about the process.
Of course the NCAA credibility was completely shattered when they handed over the football post season to the BCS.
Of course the NCAA credibility was completely shattered when they handed over the football post season to the BCS.
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Re: Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
snoscythe wrote:And FWIW, if the NCAA levies any sanctions tomorrow on the basis of the Freeh report or the criminal case (as opposed the NCAA's own investigation--as required by NCAA bylaws), I hope PSU sues the hell out of the NCAA.
Totally agree. I think Penn State should thumb their nose at NCAA and keep handing out scholarships. The NCAA stepped beyond their bounds here. The NCAA is reacting to poplular opinion, just like the prosecutors in Florida in the Trayvon Martin case. It is a sad day when government and quasi government organizations feel they have to weigh in heavy just because popular opinion says so. The head coach is dead, the President fired, the actual wrong doer going to prison for the rest of his life, and the name of the school tarnished. And yet the NCAA felt that wasn't enough. So let's punish student athletes that probably cannot afford college without the Grant in Aid.
I guess those future students should be punished since the administration in the past made mistakes. Absolutely ridiculous. This is a problem with the NCAA that needs to be corrected. It has got to figure out how to punish the wrong doers, not those that come after the wrong doers. It also needs to stay out of criminal matters.
Then next time a football program has a player with criminal offenses, the NCAA better poke its nose in there and administer penalties on the institution. Or maybe that is what the NCAA wanted it to do all the time, and this case establishes the precedent to do so.
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Re: Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
So you're saying any time a program breaks the rules there should be no punishment as long as the coach no longer works there when the NCAA finds out about it?Cougarfan87 wrote:snoscythe wrote:And FWIW, if the NCAA levies any sanctions tomorrow on the basis of the Freeh report or the criminal case (as opposed the NCAA's own investigation--as required by NCAA bylaws), I hope PSU sues the hell out of the NCAA.
Totally agree. I think Penn State should thumb their nose at NCAA and keep handing out scholarships. The NCAA stepped beyond their bounds here. The NCAA is reacting to poplular opinion, just like the prosecutors in Florida in the Trayvon Martin case. It is a sad day when government and quasi government organizations feel they have to weigh in heavy just because popular opinion says so. The head coach is dead, the President fired, the actual wrong doer going to prison for the rest of his life, and the name of the school tarnished. And yet the NCAA felt that wasn't enough. So let's punish student athletes that probably cannot afford college without the Grant in Aid.
I guess those future students should be punished since the administration in the past made mistakes. Absolutely ridiculous. This is a problem with the NCAA that needs to be corrected. It has got to figure out how to punish the wrong doers, not those that come after the wrong doers. It also needs to stay out of criminal matters.
Then next time a football program has a player with criminal offenses, the NCAA better poke its nose in there and administer penalties on the institution. Or maybe that is what the NCAA wanted it to do all the time, and this case establishes the precedent to do so.
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Re: Death Penalty for PSU Means Death to NCAA's Credibility
If the school had a player commit an illegal act, and the coaching staff and administration tried to cover up that crime so that the player could continue to play, and the school benefit from his performance, then yes, they should be sanctioned by the NCAA.Cougarfan87 wrote:Then next time a football program has a player with criminal offenses, the NCAA better poke its nose in there and administer penalties on the institution. Or maybe that is what the NCAA wanted it to do all the time, and this case establishes the precedent to do so.
The Sandusky crimes on their own do not merit NCAA sanctions. The University cover-up that went on for 13 years does.