Right decision - Wrong Call?
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Right decision - Wrong Call?
I'd like to know your thoughts now that you have had a night to think and dream and dream and think about the game.
I think the decision to go for 2 was the right decision. The play call was wrong.
JSwag was out, injured. 2 starting safeties were ejected. Utah had been moving the ball against a defense that was getting tired. And BYU's offense had just engineered a great drive. So capitalize on that and go for 2. BUT, it was a tempo offense with quicker passes that moved the ball. I think the call should have been for a pass ... different formation should have been used to protect TH (Utah had been able to disrupt the passing game with a rush for much of the night).
I can't and won't complain about going for 2; I was cheering and hoping for it ... despite memories of the BSU game flooding my mind at that time. BUT, I think, and thought, the situations were very different. I'm proud of our team. I'm proud of our coaches ... I"m disappointed in the outcome. I think Ty has some growing to do as an OC, but generally I like what I'm seeing.
I think the decision to go for 2 was the right decision. The play call was wrong.
JSwag was out, injured. 2 starting safeties were ejected. Utah had been moving the ball against a defense that was getting tired. And BYU's offense had just engineered a great drive. So capitalize on that and go for 2. BUT, it was a tempo offense with quicker passes that moved the ball. I think the call should have been for a pass ... different formation should have been used to protect TH (Utah had been able to disrupt the passing game with a rush for much of the night).
I can't and won't complain about going for 2; I was cheering and hoping for it ... despite memories of the BSU game flooding my mind at that time. BUT, I think, and thought, the situations were very different. I'm proud of our team. I'm proud of our coaches ... I"m disappointed in the outcome. I think Ty has some growing to do as an OC, but generally I like what I'm seeing.
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Re: Right decision - Wrong Call?
In the paper today Hill said when they went empty back field the Utes had been defending them completely different, but on that one play Utah brought everyone. So it probably was the right call Utah just made a better one. I still love going for it!
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Re: Right decision - Wrong Call?
Right decision for sure. If we go into OT against the Utes we lose that game. Sitake knew that and made the right call. But........
The play call was wrong. We just marched down the field passing the ball, and scored a TD when Taysom ran the scramble drill. They should have called for quick outs, slants, or a roll out pass with a run option. Once I saw that it was a QB draw I knew the play would not work.
However though, overall I am encouraged by this new coaching staff. Much hope and optimism for the future of BYU football.
The play call was wrong. We just marched down the field passing the ball, and scored a TD when Taysom ran the scramble drill. They should have called for quick outs, slants, or a roll out pass with a run option. Once I saw that it was a QB draw I knew the play would not work.
However though, overall I am encouraged by this new coaching staff. Much hope and optimism for the future of BYU football.
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Re: Right decision - Wrong Call?
Sometimes the skill of a player overtakes all. Given Taysom's abilities and that he just scored, it is not a surprise that you say we will give it to Taysom and see if the fifth year senior can take it in. BUT everyone knew that and UT was prepared. That doesn't mean Taysom could not have done it. Better blocking would've helped. BUT we were too predictable and UT too sure what the call would be.
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Re: Right decision - Wrong Call?
It's always the wrong call when it doesn't work. Duh.
I think it was the wrong decision. The time to go for two was the first touchdown when we were down 12-14. At least if you gamble and lose then you still have the entire second half to recover.
As for emptying the backfield--that worked on long fields when you were motioning Jamaal out of the backfield. It's a completely different situation on a two-point conversion from 3 yards away when the back you are motioning out is Algie instead of Jamaal.
Bad decision, bad call.
I think it was the wrong decision. The time to go for two was the first touchdown when we were down 12-14. At least if you gamble and lose then you still have the entire second half to recover.
As for emptying the backfield--that worked on long fields when you were motioning Jamaal out of the backfield. It's a completely different situation on a two-point conversion from 3 yards away when the back you are motioning out is Algie instead of Jamaal.
Bad decision, bad call.
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Re: Right decision - Wrong Call?
I would have lived for another play. Get the one and see what UT puts together.
I see why they went for it, though.
Wrong call.
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I see why they went for it, though.
Wrong call.
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Re: Right decision - Wrong Call?
I wouldn't have gone for 2. The Yewts weren't very good in the red zone, or Blue zone, or whatever we want to call it. I think we would have had an excellent chance to win.
I thought the play call was fine. Either Koroma messed up the line call or Norman went the wrong way leaving the LT to have to block 2 guys. That ultimately was the downfall of the play.
I thought the play call was fine. Either Koroma messed up the line call or Norman went the wrong way leaving the LT to have to block 2 guys. That ultimately was the downfall of the play.
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Re: Right decision - Wrong Call?
I was begging them not to go for two before I saw them line up to go for two, so for me it was the wrong decision in general.
Also, it was obvious to me that when we spread out five wide that Taysom was more than likely going to try to run it. Utah thought so too.
Knowing now that Taysom was surprised to see Utah line up the way they did, BYU should have taken the delay of game penalty and gone back with something different, possibly even just kicking the extra point. That's ridiculous that you would go ahead and just run your do or die play anyway when it looked like the defense has sniffed you out.
Also, it was obvious to me that when we spread out five wide that Taysom was more than likely going to try to run it. Utah thought so too.
Knowing now that Taysom was surprised to see Utah line up the way they did, BYU should have taken the delay of game penalty and gone back with something different, possibly even just kicking the extra point. That's ridiculous that you would go ahead and just run your do or die play anyway when it looked like the defense has sniffed you out.
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Re: Right decision - Wrong Call?
When I watch the replay, I'm only so-so on the call. I dunno.
What gets me is the blocking numbers favoring Utah, and the open field to Taysom's left. He loves going north-south, which is typically the best to do, but in this case I think extending the play a little coulda/shoulda/woulda opened up some more opportunity to get the 3 yards.
This was a weird loss that still feels like a win, for some reason. I know a loss is a loss, but whatever. I've never felt like it like this before. It reminds me of Marcus Paige's off balance 3 to tie the game in the bball national championship game for UNC too.
What gets me is the blocking numbers favoring Utah, and the open field to Taysom's left. He loves going north-south, which is typically the best to do, but in this case I think extending the play a little coulda/shoulda/woulda opened up some more opportunity to get the 3 yards.
This was a weird loss that still feels like a win, for some reason. I know a loss is a loss, but whatever. I've never felt like it like this before. It reminds me of Marcus Paige's off balance 3 to tie the game in the bball national championship game for UNC too.