Who SHOULD start at QB against UMass?

[mtnradio]

I voted for Wilson because it's clear to me that Roderick is going to keep him as the starter, so give him the reps.

Romney iis the best qb on the team.

This makes as much sense as extending a coach with a 53% win rate ..

[EM_Puma]

Three quarterbacks have seen significant playing time this season. Wilson’s overall performance has been worse than the other two. The most troubling concern is his decision making.

I don't know if you can say his performance has been worse. His rating wasn't as high, but what makes it hard to compare is the teams he played against compared to Hall and Baylor.

[a1247]

Three quarterbacks have seen significant playing time this season. Wilson’s overall performance has been worse than the other two. The most troubling concern is his decision making.

I don't know if you can say his performance has been worse. His rating wasn't as high, but what makes it hard to compare is the teams he played against compared to Hall and Baylor.

I like Baylor but I don't understand why everyone is jumping and saying he or Hall are better than Wilson. Wilson played against much stiffer competition and last week he was knocking the rust off. Had Shumway not slowed down the long pass Wilson threw to him on Saturday would have been a long completion and it was a perfectly thrown ball. Not bad for someone who hadn't played in 2 months.
Everyone can point to the Boise State game. But in the 2 games before the BYU game BSU gave up 325 yards passing to Hawaii, 262 yards passing to UNLV and the game after after they gave up 438 yards passing to San Jose State. BSU pass defense isn't the crown jewel people want to make it out to be.
If Wilson struggles this week and throws into double and triple coverage then yes bring in Romney. But this is his job to lose and the coaches who see them everyday in practice know a heck of a lot more then we do.
I just hope BYU keeps the play book open this week. UMASS sucks and I can see Grimes wanting to play power football. BYU has been better when they use the passing game to set up the running game not the other way around.
Last week and this week are warmup games for SDSU next week. Next week's game determines in my mind if this team is decent and has any chances with next year's schedule.

[Jarhead]

Three quarterbacks have seen significant playing time this season. Wilson’s overall performance has been worse than the other two. The most troubling concern is his decision making.

I don't know if you can say his performance has been worse. His rating wasn't as high, but what makes it hard to compare is the teams he played against compared to Hall and Baylor.

I feel pretty comfortable using stats and a continued trend of elementary bad decision making to say that Wilson’s performance has not been as good as the other two quarterbacks.

I’m not saying Wilson doesn’t have the potential to be a superstar quarterback. I’m also not saying that Wilson is bad. I’m just saying he needs to get past the “potential” part.

We have made many excuses for some of the things that Wilson does the past two seasons (youth and shaking the rust off); however our other quarterbacks have come in and have performed without needing those excuses.

[snoscythe]

Three quarterbacks have seen significant playing time this season. Wilson’s overall performance has been worse than the other two. The most troubling concern is his decision making.

I don't know if you can say his performance has been worse. His rating wasn't as high, but what makes it hard to compare is the teams he played against compared to Hall and Baylor.

It's actually pretty easy to compare the opponents, especially between Romney and Wilson.

BSU was #14 when Romney posted his QBR of 54.6 with a PER of 154.5. Utah (Wilson's highest ranked opponent), was also #14 when Wilson laid his 22.0 QBR and 104.5 PER performance.

You can also compare the crap teams Baylor/Jaren played against the team Zach played last Saturday and see who performs better against the cupcakes. Wilson's gave us 126.8PER and 23.0 QBR against the mighty Bengals of Idaho State. Romney gives a 160.3PER and 77.8QBR against Liberty.

Best game for each on PER/QBR basis? Romney delivered 191.5PER against USU with 92.9 QBR. Wilson delivered a 144.1PER and 75.8QBR against Tennessee. Both on the road.

To me, the argument that Wilson is "more talented" doesn't hold weight anymore, and the argument that his numbers aren't as good because he was player tougher teams doesn't hold up once you start looking at it with any amount of scrutiny.

It looks more and more like Wilson is the starter because he was the starter in August, and we can't be second-guessing ourselves three months later, ya know.

[mtnradio]

Three quarterbacks have seen significant playing time this season. Wilson’s overall performance has been worse than the other two. The most troubling concern is his decision making.

I don't know if you can say his performance has been worse. His rating wasn't as high, but what makes it hard to compare is the teams he played against compared to Hall and Baylor.

It's actually pretty easy to compare the opponents, especially between Romney and Wilson.

BSU was #14 when Romney posted his QBR of 54.6 with a PER of 154.5. Utah (Wilson's highest ranked opponent), was also #14 when Wilson laid his 22.0 QBR and 104.5 PER performance.

You can also compare the crap teams Baylor/Jaren played against the team Zach played last Saturday and see who performs better against the cupcakes. Wilson's gave us 126.8PER and 23.0 QBR against the mighty Bengals of Idaho State. Romney gives a 160.3PER and 77.8QBR against Liberty.

Best game for each on PER/QBR basis? Romney delivered 191.5PER against USU with 92.9 QBR. Wilson delivered a 144.1PER and 75.8QBR against Tennessee. Both on the road.

To me, the argument that Wilson is "more talented" doesn't hold weight anymore, and the argument that his numbers aren't as good because he was player tougher teams doesn't hold up once you start looking at it with any amount of scrutiny.

It looks more and more like Wilson is the starter because he was the starter in August, and we can't be second-guessing ourselves three months later, ya know.

Sno ... those are great comparisons!! I've kinda relied on the old eyeball test, and Romney just seemed more fluid, and more accurate. Maybe there's something in the chemistry of the huddle, maybe it's the quicker release from Romney (although someone is bound to put up stats saying the average time in the pocket before passing for Romney is X,c and for Wilson is Y ...), or that Romney's play and passing form remind me of past greats at BYU and Wilson's doesn't, or maybe I'm biased because i get the sense that Wilson is arrogant and Romney isn't ... I don't know.

As for the argument that the coaches watch these guys all week and we don't ... well, first, this staff doesn't have that level of confidence from me yet. Second, I've seen way too much politics in BYU football (especially since Sitake arrived), to discount politics having a real role in this decision.

[hawkwing]

I appreciate the comparisons, however, there's no way that Boise State is anywhere near as good as Utah.

[frdbtr]

A QB is more than arm strength and athleticism. Supposedly Wilson has better of both, but I have a hard time seeing it given his poor decision making.

I will take a poised, smart QB with an average arm and average speed any day over a more superior athletic QB that tries to do too much and puts the team in jeopardy over his decision making ability.

When I read this it reminded me of two plays that Wilson made Saturday that made you really question his thought process. The two plays where he couldn't find an open receiver and runs out of bounds and loses yardage. The one time he lost 4 yards on a 3rd down. What the hell? How did he suddenly lose the mindset that you get rid of the ball and not take a 4 yard loss. What was incredible, it happened twice in the first half that he ran out of bounds and lost yards. The other play wasn't as bad a 4 yards lost, but it's like he suddenly forgot what he was supposed to do.

I would have thought he had "forgotten" if he hadn't done this since his first start. Go back to last year and watch the Hawaii game.

[frdbtr]

I appreciate the comparisons, however, there's no way that Boise State is anywhere near as good as Utah.

Yes, but I would definitely compare them to USC and with that comparison, Romney still performed better in a win against BSU than Wilson did in a win against USC.

[BroncoBot]

The only wrinkle in the direct comparison is OC duties. If arod started calling the shots vs BSU, BR may have benefitted from that vs zw running Grimes' offense.

But, zw should have benefitted from the same OC playcalling vs ISU. I'd go with BR at this point. Seems he and Arod have a good thing going.