Which is easier
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Which is easier
I would say it's easier to improve a QB's arm strength than it is to get a QB to not play scared.
One's physical and one's mental. Problem with mental limitations is getting rid of the old fears to the point where they don't crop back up under pressure situations as people tend to revert back to where they're most comfortable when things heat up.
One's physical and one's mental. Problem with mental limitations is getting rid of the old fears to the point where they don't crop back up under pressure situations as people tend to revert back to where they're most comfortable when things heat up.
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Re: Which is easier
Neither. Nelson is 22 years old. He will not improve his arm strength much, if any, beyond what it is right now.
Playing scared is something that could take forever to get over.
Playing scared is something that could take forever to get over.
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Re: Which is easier
You're seriously suggesting that a 22 year old can't improve his arm strength?stuckinbig10country wrote:Neither. Nelson is 22 years old. He will not improve his arm strength much, if any, beyond what it is right now.
Playing scared is something that could take forever to get over.
Guess you don't watch baseball.
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Well, his arm strength really hasn't noticeably improved since he came to BYU almost 3 years ago.Gunk wrote:You're seriously suggesting that a 22 year old can't improve his arm strength?stuckinbig10country wrote:Neither. Nelson is 22 years old. He will not improve his arm strength much, if any, beyond what it is right now.
Playing scared is something that could take forever to get over.
Guess you don't watch baseball.
Also, most baseball players that I've watched in MLB that come in with good velocity had it when they joined the league at 18 through 22, and actually tend to start losing it around 26 to 28 and have to learn how to pitch better and not just throw it by everyone. Also, you very rarely see pitchers go from throwing 90 mph and then jump to 95 mph on a regular basis.
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Re: Which is easier
Better forgot arm strength scenario and discuss accuracy and proper velocity on a pass. Kellen Moore/Boise State does not have a cannon for an arm but he is highly accurate, knows how to leD the receiver, understands his offense inside and out, and is a gutsy, heady player. Don't see much of Heaps in him, but I do see more of Riley in him.
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Re: Which is easier
Here here! More is a great example. I don't know if he had any stars and I bet Boise State doesn't give a hoot how many he had. He's too little too. He probably couln't make all the throws at first. What he could and can do is WIN! yA, that is more important than anything else in any player.byucougar1 wrote:Better forgot arm strength scenario and discuss accuracy and proper velocity on a pass. Kellen Moore/Boise State does not have a cannon for an arm but he is highly accurate, knows how to leD the receiver, understands his offense inside and out, and is a gutsy, heady player. Don't see much of Heaps in him, but I do see more of Riley in him.
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Re: Which is easier
My issue with Riley has always been his read progression. He seems to mostly get to one then tuck and run. That may have worked in H.S. but that doesn't work in college (see AF game last year for example of this). He did show signs of both going through a progression and not going through it and just running. Not sure which one is the one we get regularly. Last game was a come from behind so he didn't have a choice in most situations except to try and pass (e.g. pass to "Jacobson"). So to me the problem isn't about arm strenght its about having the same amount of confidence in his arm as he does in his legs.
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Re: Which is easier
To me it is just the opposite...in most cases, it is possible to change a mentality because it is a core function of the use of agency. When someone has physical limitations, it is often NOT a function of agency and is often impossible to change.snoscythe wrote:Changing someone mentally is always more difficult than changing them physically.
To me, this question is not even really a question...if it were that easy to change people physically, Ty Detmer would have been a hall of fame NFL quarterback. Many teams tried to make it work and give him opportunity, but it was just not at a sufficient level.
The possibility of changing a mentality is much greater than the possibility of changing someone physically.
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Re: Which is easier
Agree. I think we saw on Friday though that Riley has what it takes to stay in the pocket. Many of his runs were designed runs. He was supposed to step back, look like he was going to pass it, let the defense get spread out and take off.imuakahuku wrote:My issue with Riley has always been his read progression. He seems to mostly get to one then tuck and run. That may have worked in H.S. but that doesn't work in college (see AF game last year for example of this). He did show signs of both going through a progression and not going through it and just running. Not sure which one is the one we get regularly. Last game was a come from behind so he didn't have a choice in most situations except to try and pass (e.g. pass to "Jacobson"). So to me the problem isn't about arm strenght its about having the same amount of confidence in his arm as he does in his legs.
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