Re: Response to “Are Mormons Closer to Muslims or Christians
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:16 pm
An African, a white guy, a socialist, an Indonesian, and a Muslim walk into a bar. Bartender says "What'll it be Mr. President?"
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My immediate next door neighbor, for the past 11 years, is a Muslim. I do not hate Islam. I do not hate Muslims.CougarClaw wrote:
Before you condemn an entire religion as violent, before you extrapolate the actions of a few to the whole, before you forget that Islam literally means "peace" and that it's the fastest growing religion in the world, I would invite you to get to know some Muslims.
Then perhaps this is the only line that applies to you specifically. The rest was written to the group or anyone else who can dismiss Islam based out of ignorance.CougarClaw wrote:before you extrapolate the actions of a few to the whole,
should I go on? Perhaps we could talk about altar boy rape, or Fundamental Polygamous Mormon colonies, we could talk about Protestant vs Catholic killings in the UK.IndiaThe National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), a rebel group operating in Tripura, North-East India, has been described as engaging in terrorist violence motivated by their Christian beliefs. It is classified by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, and has been accused of forcefully converting people to Christianity. The state government reports that the Baptist Church of Tripura supplies arms and gives financial support to the NLFT. The NLFT has threatened to kill Hindus celebrating the annual five-day religious festival of Durga Puja and other religious celebrations. It is believed that up to 5,000 tribal villagers were converted to Christianity by the NLFT in two years. These forcible conversions to Christianity, sometimes including the use of "rape as a means of intimidation," have also been noted by academics outside of India.
Norway - In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island. As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a "Christian crusader". Analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.
U.S. - During the twentieth century, members of extremist groups such as the Army of God began executing attacks against abortion clinics and doctors across the United States. A number of terrorist attacks were attributed to individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, including the Lambs of Christ
A group called Concerned Christians were deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven.
The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on May 31, 2009 was a belief that abortion is criminal and immoral, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his religious beliefs.
The Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996, as well as subsequent attacks on an abortion clinic and a lesbian nightclub, were made by Eric Robert Rudolph.Michael Barkun, a professor at Syracuse University, considers Rudolph to likely fit the definition of a Christian terrorist, whereas James A. Aho, a professor at Idaho State University, argues instead that Rudolph was inspired only in part by religious considerations
Peru: Fourteen traditionalist shamans about to form a shamanic school and association were murdered in Peru over a period of several months prior to October 2011. The murders were allegedly committed by, and/or at the behest of, the local mayor and a group of other evangelical Christians. The mayor's brother was known in the area as a matabrujos or witch killer. The Peruvian government continues to investigate.
you've mentioned Israel several times. I don't disagree that Israel is under attack and in danger from most of its neighbors.Ddawg wrote:
How much comfort do you think the citizens of Israel have, knowing that Islam stands for peace? I bet they sleep the sweet, restful sleep of babes.
Tell me the last time Israel had a suicide bomber walk into a coffee shop in the Gaza Strip, or Lebanon and blow up Muslims while they were socializing.CougarClaw wrote:you've mentioned Israel several times. I don't disagree that Israel is under attack and in danger from most of its neighbors.Ddawg wrote:
How much comfort do you think the citizens of Israel have, knowing that Islam stands for peace? I bet they sleep the sweet, restful sleep of babes.
I wonder what you think about Israel disproportionately killing Muslim and Palestinians? Somehow that never makes it into your argument about Israel's security.
Thank you Boise-BYU. Here's the deal, radical, extremist, violent Islamic Terrorism is a powerful force. They are well funded, sell staffed, and not going away.BoiseBYU wrote: Ddawg I like your posts and thoughtfulness. Here's my reaction to what you just posted. Radical islamicnterrorists are not Islam. Taliban terrorists are not Islam. They are, if I can sound judgmental, evil people claiming to be acting in the name of Islam but doing so falsely. They do not define Islam any more than abortion doctor murderer who says he does his killing in the name of Christianity defines Christianity or the Hindi terrorists who slaughter Islamic civilians in India define Hinduism. Now I admit that their seems to be many more terrorists purporting to act in the name of Islam than other religions, butnI think my points still valid and sustaining