Will Mitt Run in 2016?
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Actually - that's a jaw dropping accusation. It would be interesting to see the documentation, charges, on-going investigations, to back up such a serious charge.jvquarterback wrote: And Mitt ....... He's bribed, er contributed to, every legislator in the state starting from the smallest municipality.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/us/po ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Ddawg wrote:Actually - that's a jaw dropping accusation. It would be interesting to see the documentation, charges, on-going investigations, to back up such a serious charge.jvquarterback wrote: And Mitt ....... He's bribed, er contributed to, every legislator in the state starting from the smallest municipality.
Just about every republican candidate in nh got money from Romney or his PAC.
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So...That's what PAC's do.jvquarterback wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/us/po ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Ddawg wrote:Actually - that's a jaw dropping accusation. It would be interesting to see the documentation, charges, on-going investigations, to back up such a serious charge.jvquarterback wrote: And Mitt ....... He's bribed, er contributed to, every legislator in the state starting from the smallest municipality.
Just about every republican candidate in nh got money from Romney or his PAC.
You can say that about any Political Action Committee. I've worked for a company that donated to EVERY candidate in any state they had operations.
So if you feel that PAC's are just bribe money, then sure, you're claim is valid. You'd have to say the exact same thing about the PAC's set up by Obama, Reid, Soros, etc.
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Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?
Romney is the only one campaigning in NH - he's still donating to all the candidates. What I'm saying is that if he doesn't win in NH by double digits I don't think he'll win anywhere else.
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Bingo. There is a universe of difference between legal PAC donations and illegal bribery. Your semantics and terminology is pretty "fast and loose." More specifically, your definition is just wrong. One is legal and sanctioned and controlled by regulations and laws, the other is not and prosecuted. One is sneaky and underhanded. The other is up front, in the open, and reported (which is exactly what Romney does).stuckinbig10country wrote:So...That's what PAC's do.jvquarterback wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/us/po ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Ddawg wrote:Actually - that's a jaw dropping accusation. It would be interesting to see the documentation, charges, on-going investigations, to back up such a serious charge.jvquarterback wrote: And Mitt ....... He's bribed, er contributed to, every legislator in the state starting from the smallest municipality.
Just about every republican candidate in nh got money from Romney or his PAC.
You can say that about any Political Action Committee. I've worked for a company that donated to EVERY candidate in any state they had operations.
So if you feel that PAC's are just bribe money, then sure, you're claim is valid. You'd have to say the exact same thing about the PAC's set up by Obama, Reid, Soros, etc.
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Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?
I forgot to answer the OP. Romney is already campaigning/running for the nomination in 2016. I think the odds are long (10-15% of winning the nomination).
As for political donations, they go to the heart of the very corrupt government we have. Whether a thing is legal or not does not make it moral. If you donate to someone to get more loot from government contracts (whether those are defense contracts or food stamps) there is no difference between that and a bribe. Buying another politician's endorsement - well - you can decide for yourself what that is.
Regardless of what you want to call Romney's money handouts to politicians in NH they are still going on. And if he can't turn those dollars into convincing win a small state in the Northeast, he's done.
The biggest problem with Romney in terms of a general election is that he doesn't excite anyone. The evangelicals aren't going to work for him and none of the libertarian republicans will either. That's the entire grass roots of the party already written off before you even get started.
As for political donations, they go to the heart of the very corrupt government we have. Whether a thing is legal or not does not make it moral. If you donate to someone to get more loot from government contracts (whether those are defense contracts or food stamps) there is no difference between that and a bribe. Buying another politician's endorsement - well - you can decide for yourself what that is.
Regardless of what you want to call Romney's money handouts to politicians in NH they are still going on. And if he can't turn those dollars into convincing win a small state in the Northeast, he's done.
The biggest problem with Romney in terms of a general election is that he doesn't excite anyone. The evangelicals aren't going to work for him and none of the libertarian republicans will either. That's the entire grass roots of the party already written off before you even get started.
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Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?
Unfortunately, polls show that he'd lose to Hillary. In fact, all Republicans would lose to Hillary.scott715 wrote:Polls show that if he and Obama ran today, that Romney would win.
I don't know how or why, but it appears as though she will be our next president.
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Re: Will Mitt Run in 2016?
seems to be the exact conversation we were having in 2008, doesn't it?stuckinbig10country wrote:Unfortunately, polls show that he'd lose to Hillary. In fact, all Republicans would lose to Hillary.scott715 wrote:Polls show that if he and Obama ran today, that Romney would win.
I don't know how or why, but it appears as though she will be our next president.