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Gunk wrote:

Schmoe wrote:

Gunk wrote:

Schmoe wrote:Carlino's highest shot percentage year at BYU is equal with Jimmer's lowest (as a freshman), the same is true for 3-point percentage. But in those years, Jimmer shot 5.8 times a game (3.7 of those from three point land) while Carlino shot 10.5 times a game (4.6 of those from three point land). Not that either is necessarily bad, I just thought it might need a mention when comparing the two.

Jimmer's freshman year he was a team with Cummard and Plaisted. Two players that went on to play professional hoops. Tavernari was pretty solid that year as well. Cummard was MWC co-MVP at the time.

Carlino last season played with Haws (great player), Austin at center, a revolving door at the 2, and a 4 that fancies themselves a PG. Someone had to take shots other than Haws.

Did you conveniently or genuinely forget about Mika?

Also, Carlino took virtually twice as many threes as Haws, the second leading three shooter on the team, but had a 3pt% that was significantly lower than Haws and Winder, and lower than a couple other players on the team (I think maybe some of those long threes, and just threes early in the shot clock are the kinds of shots that some fans see as 'selfish'). Winder also seems like a solid 2 to me, and shot lights out last season so it doesn't seem like the 2 should have been a 'revolving door', but I guess that's on Coach Rose.

I did forget about Mika. That said, Junior Trent Plaisted > Freshman Mika.

The offense did not flow through Mika like it did through Plaisted and Plaisted as a Junior constantly commanded double teams.

I agree the long 3s and early shot-clock shots are the shots fans point to as "selfish," but that's my point. Jimmer took the same exact shots. Only difference is Jimmer made them more. Meanwhile, Carlino has Jimmer beat in every assist stat, the only semi sure way to measure how "selfish" a player really is.

As I mentioned in a previous post, Rose preaches shooting in the shot clock early. He'd rather shoot early than risk turning the ball over. Can't fault Carlino for sticking to the game plan.

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BlueIsBetter wrote:When your best point guard is coming off the bench in a reserve role (and no, I'm not talking about Winder, he is a 2 guard), you are going to have ball security problems. And I've said as much all season. BYU doesn't have a point guard, and should give a serious look to starting Halford in the 4 guard lineup, especially with Fischers down play (He could rotate in as a three headed monster with WInder, he and Halford splitting minutes at the one and two positions). KC can have the ball all he wants on the wings in the 3 point stance, but the days of him bringing the ball down the court should be gone. Get the ball to him on the wing and watch the defense worry about where he is all of the time. WHen he has the ball it's much easier to worry about him. Have him post and make back cuts and come off screens, the same way Haws does. He can't shoot from mid-range on, but he can get the ball in space, take a dribble and draw attention and dish or get to the line.

I agree we do not have a PG. I agree KC is playing out of position.

I wholeheartedly disagree that Halford should start. He's a turnover machine, gets pushed around defense, has less length, and can't get to the rim. I'd take Winder bringing up the ball over Halford any day. In fact, I'd prefer Winder at PG over KC.

Winder ran point for the first half of the season his freshman year and did it against some solid opponents. He was then Carlino's backup.

Qman wrote:

BlueIsBetter wrote:When your best point guard is coming off the bench in a reserve role (and no, I'm not talking about Winder, he is a 2 guard), you are going to have ball security problems. And I've said as much all season. BYU doesn't have a point guard, and should give a serious look to starting Halford in the 4 guard lineup, especially with Fischers down play (He could rotate in as a three headed monster with WInder, he and Halford splitting minutes at the one and two positions). KC can have the ball all he wants on the wings in the 3 point stance, but the days of him bringing the ball down the court should be gone. Get the ball to him on the wing and watch the defense worry about where he is all of the time. WHen he has the ball it's much easier to worry about him. Have him post and make back cuts and come off screens, the same way Haws does. He can't shoot from mid-range on, but he can get the ball in space, take a dribble and draw attention and dish or get to the line.

Are you seriously implying that Halford is a point guard? What is the first, most important part of being a point guard? Ball-handling/ball security. Halford is terrible at that.

I think we are going to need to matchup specific for bring the ball up the court. When KC is playing the 4 he will have an advantage but if opponent's 4 is guarding Winder or Fischer they should bring the ball up.

BlueIsBetter wrote:

Qman wrote:

BlueIsBetter wrote:When your best point guard is coming off the bench in a reserve role (and no, I'm not talking about Winder, he is a 2 guard), you are going to have ball security problems. And I've said as much all season. BYU doesn't have a point guard, and should give a serious look to starting Halford in the 4 guard lineup, especially with Fischers down play (He could rotate in as a three headed monster with WInder, he and Halford splitting minutes at the one and two positions). KC can have the ball all he wants on the wings in the 3 point stance, but the days of him bringing the ball down the court should be gone. Get the ball to him on the wing and watch the defense worry about where he is all of the time. WHen he has the ball it's much easier to worry about him. Have him post and make back cuts and come off screens, the same way Haws does. He can't shoot from mid-range on, but he can get the ball in space, take a dribble and draw attention and dish or get to the line.

Are you seriously implying that Halford is a point guard? What is the first, most important part of being a point guard? Ball-handling/ball security. Halford is terrible at that.

I think we are going to need to matchup specific for bring the ball up the court. When KC is playing the 4 he will have an advantage but if opponent's 4 is guarding Winder or Fischer they should bring the ball up.

How does that crow taste?

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BlueIsBetter wrote:I'm not saying I'd pick him first in a draft, but he is - quite literally - the closest thing we have to a point guard. Hope he gets the time to improve and gel with the starters. That was the closest to BYU basketball I have seen in more than a year. Uptempo is back, or at least it was against Santa Clara.

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BlueIsBetter wrote:I'm not saying I'd pick him first in a draft, but he is - quite literally - the closest thing we have to a point guard. Hope he gets the time to improve and gel with the starters. That was the closest to BYU basketball I have seen in more than a year. Uptempo is back, or at least it was against Santa Clara.

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hawkwing wrote:I'll take KC every day of the week.