Mars wrote:Gunk wrote: Sharp, Worthington, Austin, JT (he practically regressed), Cusick, and a whole bunch of other players. A lot of BYU players don't progress beyond their freshman and sophomore years.
Worthington has been at BYU 2 years, as a Freshman and a Sophomore. Not really fair game yet. 251 minutes, 32 points, 29 rebounds Year #1. 407 minutes, 60 points, 55 rebounds Year #2. That does show definite improvement.
Nate Austin played 450 minutes as a Freshman, playing 35 games, starting 1, scoring 143 points and grabbing 132 rebounds. Austin played 934 minutes as a Junior, playing 35 games, starting 35, scoring 132 points and grabbing 278 rebounds. He has had serious injury issues. It appears that he has sacrificed his offensive game in order to focus on defense and rebounding. Judging by his starts/minutes, that is exactly what the coaches wanted him to do.
Tavernari played 343 minutes as a Freshman. 181 points, 80 rebounds, 17 assists, 18 steals. He played 1042 minutes as a Junior. 517 points, 239 rebounds, 58 assists, 49 steals. His Senior year, he became the 1st player off of the bench, putting up similar numbers to his Sophomore year as a primary starter (that team featured Jimmer, Emery, Davies, Hartsock, Miles, Abouo, and Tyler Haws). But there's no doubt that his overall numbers improved dramatically the longer he was at BYU.
Cusick also only played 2 years at BYU. As a Junior, he played 588 minutes, scoring 110 points and grabbing 52 rebounds. As a Senior, he played 689 minutes, scoring 137 points and grabbing 82 rebounds. Again, improvement.
There are plenty of names that don't stand out much to BYU fans, like Logan Magnusson. But going back and looking at the numbers, even guys like that did improve quite a bit.
Good break down, both Nate and Josh had rolls they played and scoring was not high on their list in that roll. JT gave up his starting job his Sr year and was name MWC 6th Man of the Year, along with making 3rd Team All-MWC as a non-starter. Their production had a direct correlation with games played, starts, minutes played, and who also is on the team that plays a like position:
Josh Sharp
Fr- 28 GP 0 GS, 197 Min(7.0), 33 Pts (1.2), 38 Reb (1.4), 12 Ast, 3 Blks, 4 Stl, 12 TO
So- 32/22, 592 Min(18.5), 140 Pts (4.4), 124 Reb (3.9), 21 Ast, 7 Blks, 13 Stl, 21 TO
Jr- 32/3, 352 Min(11.0), 45 Pts (1.4), 77 Reb (2.4), 14 Ast, 8 Blks, 5 Stl, 6 TO
Sr- 23/10, 238 Min(10.3), 32 Pts (1.4), 54 Reb (2.3), 16 Ast, 10 Blks, 8 Stl, 6 TO
Luke Worthington
Fr- 31/3, 251 Min(8.1), 32 Pts (1.0), 29 Reb (0.9), 4 Ast, 2 Blks, 4 Stl, 14 TO
So- 33/21, 407 Min(12.3), 60 Pts (1.8 ), 55 Reb (1.7), 6 Ast, 2 Blks, 10 Stl, 14 TO
Nate Austin
Fr- 35/1, 450 Min(12.9), 143 Pts (4.1), 132 Reb (3.8 ), 19 Ast, 15 Blks, 9 Stl, 20 TO
So- 36/7, 631 Min(17.5), 131 Pts (3.6), 165 Reb (4.6), 20 Ast, 23 Blks, 21 Stl, 21 TO
Jr- 35/35, 934 Min(26.7), 132 Pts (3.8 ), 278 Reb (7.9), 32 Ast, 31 Blks, 26 Stl, 38 TO
Sr- 10/10, 197 Min(19.7), 30 Pts (3.0), 56 Reb (5.6), 9 Ast, 2 Blks, 7 Stl, 3 TO
Nate Sr stats are very misleading, because he started the Utah game, but didn't even record a minute played, so it should really be 9 games: 197 Min (21.9), 30 Pts (3.3), 56 Reb (6.2), 9 Ast, 2 Blks, 7 Stl, 3 TO... Now also take into account he only played 11 minutes against Southern Virginia and 10 minutes against Hawaii. Also do you think it made a difference that Nate's sophomore year Tyler Haws was playing (return home from his mission). 2011-12 Charles Abouo 11.0 PPG vs 2012-13 Tyler Haws 21.7 PPG...
Jonathan Tavernari
Fr- 28/0, 343 Min(12.3), 181 Pts (6.5), 80 Reb (2.9), 17 Ast, 8 Blks, 18 Stl, 17 TO
So- 35/29, 966 Min(27.6), 459 Pts (13.1), 184 Reb (5.3), 53 Ast, 16 Blks, 48 Stl, 59 TO
Jr- 33/33, 1042 Min(31.6), 517 Pts (15.7), 239 Reb (7.2), 58 Ast, 11 Blks, 49 Stl, 44 TO
Sr- 36/7, 849 Min(23.6), 362 Pts (10.1), 157 Reb (4.4), 54 Ast, 7 Blks, 50 Stl, 44 TO
Craig Cusick
Jr- 35/3, 588 Min(16.8 ), 110 Pts (3.1), 52 Reb (1.5), 74 Ast, 0 Blks, 29 Stl, 25 TO
Sr- 36/12, 689 Min(19.1), 137 Pts (3.8 ), 82 Reb (2.3), 74 Ast, 0 Blks, 29 Stl, 30 TO
JT gave up his starting job (walking in told Coach Rose he would wanted Noah to start in his place) his Sr year. So lets look at how Noah Hartsock and Brandon Davies did in their careers also.
Noah Hartsock
Fr- 27/0, 304 Min(11.3), 66 Pts (2.4), 63 Reb (2.3), 7 Ast, 15 Blks, 6 Stl, 14 TO
So- 36/30, 878 Min(24.4), 233 Pts (6.5), 184 Reb (5.1), 42 Ast, 46 Blks, 18 Stl, 21 TO
Jr- 37/36, 1100 Min(29.7), 320 Pts (8.6), 220 Reb (5.9), 59 Ast, 61 Blks, 21 Stl, 35 TO
Sr- 34/32, 1049 Min(30.9), 572 Pts(16.8 ), 171 Reb (5.0), 50 Ast, 55 Blks, 29 Stl, 53 TO
Brandon Davies
Fr- 35/1, 474 Min (13.5), 188 Pts (5.4), 104 Reb (3.0), 9 Ast, 14 Blks, 13 Stl, 47 TO
So- 29/26, 721 Min (24.9), 323 Pts (11.1), 180 Reb (6.2), 43 Ast, 27 Blks, 20 Stl, 44 TO
Jr- 35/35, 1002 Min(28.6), 532 Pts (15.2), 269 Reb (7.7), 73 Ast, 47 Blks, 51 Stl, 100 TO
Sr- 36/36, 1054 Min(29.3), 637 Pts (17.7), 287 Reb (8.0), 88 Ast, 35 Blks, 48 Stl, 92 TO