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How much is just a good choice vs a better choice? Last time I checked going on a mission is not a saving ordinance.

Qman wrote:How much is just a good choice vs a better choice? Last time I checked going on a mission is not a saving ordinance.

Who said it was?

Qman wrote:How much is just a good choice vs a better choice? Last time I checked going on a mission is not a saving ordinance.

Not a saving ordinance, but a commandment.

Schmoe wrote:

Qman wrote:How much is just a good choice vs a better choice? Last time I checked going on a mission is not a saving ordinance.

Who said it was?

A mission is not an ordinance. An ordinance is a ceremony or religious ritual through which a covenant is made. A mission is a commandment, however.

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Now that the Dukies are just another One-and-Done destination school if he goes he'll have a good chance of spending 4 years riding the pine while watching future NBA first rounders come and go ahead of him each year. Seems like a good kid. Hope he holds to his guns and serves a mission and rethinks and re-evaluates the Y as an option.

Go Cougs!

L Hatton
Louisville, KY

Gunk wrote:

Schmoe wrote:

Qman wrote:How much is just a good choice vs a better choice? Last time I checked going on a mission is not a saving ordinance.

Who said it was?

A mission is not an ordinance. An ordinance is a ceremony or religious ritual through which a covenant is made. A mission is a commandment, however.

Oh-Oh...
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SenorCougar wrote:

Gunk wrote:

Schmoe wrote:

Qman wrote:How much is just a good choice vs a better choice? Last time I checked going on a mission is not a saving ordinance.

Who said it was?

A mission is not an ordinance. An ordinance is a ceremony or religious ritual through which a covenant is made. A mission is a commandment, however.

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Oh-Oh...

Part of the problem with religion in general (and ours especially) as it applies to youth is that we are constantly painting artificial boundaries that our kids can't come back from. We scare our kids into believing that once they lose their viriginity, for example, they lose a part of themselves and step into an endless chasm of despair, so that if and when that happens before wedlock they feel they already have a predestined path laid out for them. We can do the same thing with drinking, smoking, "single dating" and even missions. The topics are endless, the approach is largely the same. It could be that we are creating self-fulfilling prophecies with the way that we approach our youth.

What Frank does is his business, and with all due respect, none of you have any idea what would be better for him or his current or future family. At best, you have personal evidence which you are trying to apply to Frank, but your experiences don't translate. Sorry. My advice is to pull the reigns back and focus on yourselves, and what you can control, but then again, you shouldn't take advice from someone on the internet whom you have never met (and who knows nothing about your situation past or present).

Brayden Green wrote:Part of the problem with religion in general (and ours especially) as it applies to youth is that we are constantly painting artificial boundaries that our kids can't come back from. We scare our kids into believing that once they lose their viriginity, for example, they lose a part of themselves and step into an endless chasm of despair, so that if and when that happens before wedlock they feel they already have a predestined path laid out for them.

We can do the same thing with drinking, smoking, "single dating" and even missions. The topics are endless. It could be that we are creating self-fulfilling prophecies with the way that we approach our youth.

What Frank does is his business, and with all due respect, none of you have any idea what would be better for him or his current or future family. At best, you have personal evidence which you are trying to apply to Frank, but your experiences don't translate. Sorry. My advice is to pull the reigns back and focus on yourselves, and what you can control, but then again, you shouldn't take advice from someone on the internet whom you have never met (and who knows nothing about your situation past or present).

We are discussing the benefits of BYU and missions in general, not giving Frank Jackson advice; I doubt he's reading our posts here. We do know his and anyone else' life and family will be blessed more if they follow the commandments than if they don't, including the commandment to serve a mission. Not sure how someone's life can be better for choosing a career first over following a commandment. I agree with your initial premise that we in our culture overpreach the boundaries from which we cannot return, but that doesn't mean we should loosen those boundaries.

Telling others that they should focus on themselves is pretty ironic.

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