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Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-20T19:52:20-06:00

It does seem that there are a lot of people that can't get over themelves and their expectations this year. CougarBlue is full of them. I don't know if it's just the general expectations coming into this season with a senior QB and proven TE/RB, or if a lot of it happened after the OU win, but either way too many people have been too harsh on the coaching staff and specific players - most of it unwarranted and baseless (to think that a month ago people were calling for Max Hall's head, and a few still are!).
I admit that after the OU game I thought "this will be our year," but I'll also admit I entered the season expecting 10-2 and hoping for 11-1; I just didn't expect BYU to beat OU, FSU, TCU and Utah. So I've just had to remind myself that we're right where I expected us to be. Losing to Utah would be a huge disappointment, but I don't see it happening yet.
Over the last few weeks, Bronco has made repeated references to the "ignorance" of fans, to their unreal expectations, to their undeserved criticism...even going so far as pointing out that the team enjoys the away games because they can get away from the critical fans. HOW SAD IS THAT?!?
I suppose I'd think that it's maybe a "new generation" thing expecting immediate gratification, but from the comments of many of you at games, it doesn't seem to be coming from the studentbody alone.
I totally agree, I found myself very dissapointed with this year's team. They all the tools for a special season and it didnt pan out. I remember many years when we didnt even make a bowl game. I still blame the "Quest for Perfection" for raising our hopes and dreams for the BCS. I remember Val Hale wanting to make BYU a national powerhouse.This is what you get when you raise ticket prices, when i was young i would to the game for 5$. I still think Bronco has to prepare his team for the big games more. The OU game they were prepared for whatever they were going to throw at them. TCU is a great team but they should have had a better showing.

It's like a business. I feel like if I invest heavily into something, I want results. I own a business, so i guess I have that "vibe" or whatever. I would put the cougs in a "safe" investment category right now. Whenever they play a good team, it is risky, and whenever they play a great team (so far only TCU this year) it goes to "Very Risky" for whatever reason. We have sat on here blaming coaching (i think it's only good, if not mediocre at times), and players (good to mediocre) and everything else. But the bottom line is that it gets to a point where you don't want to jump that heavily into things anymore, maybe you want to wait a while and see what the market is going to do. That is where I am at. Why should I care more about a program than some of the people on the field, (and possibly in the coaching box?). Now, don't get me wrong... I am not expecting wins (I am a Dodger fan, a spurs and jazz fan, and a jets fan besides the cougs) so I am very used to losing with all my teams... but I am expecting accountability, and I am not feeling like it from this team and/or coaching staff... I mean, I used to spend everyday at least once a day reading at CB, and they were only practicing a few times a week. That didn't equate to me... They say that they can do it because they have more efficient practices, and are more effective in those practices. Apparently there is a lot more "executing" going on.

I like the recruiting that is going on, it seems like we are bringing the right type of boys in. But I mean, when a team stops caring the fans do too, and that is hard to win back. I am beginning to think (and I am trying not to be pessimistic here) that our dominance over the last few years has more to do with our lack of quality teams that we are playing. Our best win this year MIGHT be against Air Force (I would consider OU just because of the brand name, but they are definitely reloading on the O line, who looked clueless in our game against them... I mean if our predictable blitzing schemes with no pressure linebackers can get to the qb THAT many times... (Pendleton excluded, he is a man-beast hybrid). And if we end up playing USC or BSU come the end of the year, I fear very much for our safety. USC is playing (and losing to) scary good teams, while we are hanging in there with average (at best) teams.

Statistics: Posted by cougsnspurs4life — Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:52 pm

Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-20T15:23:35-06:00

This is what you get when you raise ticket prices, when i was young i would to the game for 5$.
How much were hotdogs?

I kid.

Statistics: Posted by BlueBlue — Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:23 pm

Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-20T13:30:14-06:00

This is what you get when you raise ticket prices, when i was young i would to the game for 5$.

How much were hotdogs?

I kid.

Statistics: Posted by Mars — Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:30 pm

Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-20T12:24:02-06:00

It does seem that there are a lot of people that can't get over themelves and their expectations this year. CougarBlue is full of them. I don't know if it's just the general expectations coming into this season with a senior QB and proven TE/RB, or if a lot of it happened after the OU win, but either way too many people have been too harsh on the coaching staff and specific players - most of it unwarranted and baseless (to think that a month ago people were calling for Max Hall's head, and a few still are!).
I admit that after the OU game I thought "this will be our year," but I'll also admit I entered the season expecting 10-2 and hoping for 11-1; I just didn't expect BYU to beat OU, FSU, TCU and Utah. So I've just had to remind myself that we're right where I expected us to be. Losing to Utah would be a huge disappointment, but I don't see it happening yet.
Over the last few weeks, Bronco has made repeated references to the "ignorance" of fans, to their unreal expectations, to their undeserved criticism...even going so far as pointing out that the team enjoys the away games because they can get away from the critical fans. HOW SAD IS THAT?!?
I suppose I'd think that it's maybe a "new generation" thing expecting immediate gratification, but from the comments of many of you at games, it doesn't seem to be coming from the studentbody alone.

I totally agree, I found myself very dissapointed with this year's team. They all the tools for a special season and it didnt pan out. I remember many years when we didnt even make a bowl game. I still blame the "Quest for Perfection" for raising our hopes and dreams for the BCS. I remember Val Hale wanting to make BYU a national powerhouse.This is what you get when you raise ticket prices, when i was young i would to the game for 5$. I still think Bronco has to prepare his team for the big games more. The OU game they were prepared for whatever they were going to throw at them. TCU is a great team but they should have had a better showing.

Statistics: Posted by ByuIcoug — Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:24 pm

Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-20T10:48:58-06:00

What do locker rooms have to do with it? If you were a kid, and had UNLV recruit you, and Nevada recruit you, and Nevada has 1000x better facilities, where do you go? Facilities matter because it puts off a perception of commitment. UNLV has a horrible stadium horrible football facilities and does bare minimum yet expects great results, and that is the truth of the matter. That community loves the Tark era Rebels and winning hoops, but could care less about football. But a perception of a commitment might get 1 or 2 mroe kids that make a difference. Seriously, of all the college towns in teh MWC, which are the best? San Diego and Vegas. But both suck. Why? No fan support, not tradition, no university facilities. It does matter.

Agree. Kids coming in don't expect a winning record all the time... Some of the best want to choose a losing team to try and bring it back to greatness (just like He who must not be named...). They want to feel like they are the only person being recruited, to the only athletic program that the school has. If they feel anything other than that it doesn't work. DUKE, KANSAS, N. CAROLINA all have money money money flowing into and out of that facility, but they can't recruit well enough for a winning team. It is because the support isn't there from the university and the fans. Football will always be #2 there.

Statistics: Posted by cougsnspurs4life — Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:48 am

Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-19T18:35:05-06:00

What do locker rooms have to do with it? If you were a kid, and had UNLV recruit you, and Nevada recruit you, and Nevada has 1000x better facilities, where do you go? Facilities matter because it puts off a perception of commitment. UNLV has a horrible stadium horrible football facilities and does bare minimum yet expects great results, and that is the truth of the matter. That community loves the Tark era Rebels and winning hoops, but could care less about football. But a perception of a commitment might get 1 or 2 mroe kids that make a difference. Seriously, of all the college towns in teh MWC, which are the best? San Diego and Vegas. But both suck. Why? No fan support, not tradition, no university facilities. It does matter.

Statistics: Posted by Lawboy — Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:35 pm

Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-19T14:07:56-06:00

I was just in LB this week for business. I watched the news, and the coach search there is not main news. UNLV hoops is. In the papers down there, Sanford went out blazing and basically said that UNLV will not be a good program until they upgrade their facilities--that they have the worst locker rooms in the nation. He said the community needs to support the program better, the Univ needs to be willing to pay more for coaches, especially assistants. Stanford was the 2nd lowest paid coach in the MWC. It sounds as if the front runner might be the Steelers RB coach, who was the runner up to Stanford last time, unless they want a college guy or someone with HC experience. Not sure why anyone would want that job really, unless it was there first HC job, though. That community could care less about UNLV football. And that stadium is horrendous. The lighting is worse than some high school fields I have been to.

What do locker rooms have to do with winning? And Sanford was the second lowest paid coach in the MWC because he was at least the second worst coach. If he had been winning games, recruits would come regardless of what the locker rooms looked like and he would have been paid more as well. You can argue that they aren't able to win because recruits don't want to use the locker rooms, but they have the athletes they need to beat teams like Wyoming and Nevada. If you win, they will come.

Statistics: Posted by UVACoug — Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:07 pm

Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-19T13:57:21-06:00

I was just in LB this week for business. I watched the news, and the coach search there is not main news. UNLV hoops is. In the papers down there, Sanford went out blazing and basically said that UNLV will not be a good program until they upgrade their facilities--that they have the worst locker rooms in the nation. He said the community needs to support the program better, the Univ needs to be willing to pay more for coaches, especially assistants. Stanford was the 2nd lowest paid coach in the MWC. It sounds as if the front runner might be the Steelers RB coach, who was the runner up to Stanford last time, unless they want a college guy or someone with HC experience. Not sure why anyone would want that job really, unless it was there first HC job, though. That community could care less about UNLV football. And that stadium is horrendous. The lighting is worse than some high school fields I have been to.

The reason the community doesn't care is because UNLV football is horrible. Basketball is not.

UNLV should have no problem getting great athletes. They are a good distance from So Cal (not too far, not too close), Vegas is a party town, and UNLV has no academic standards. I wouldn't mind coaching there.

Statistics: Posted by mcgregor — Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:57 pm

Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-19T13:07:33-06:00

The Las Vegas Review-Journal is reporting Anae as a potential candidate for the now vacant Rebels job. Anae coached for a couple of years in the 90's.
For UNLV?
Great, now anytime we're facing UNLV and they have a 2nd and 2 in our territory, we can expect a 30 yard pass attempt - nothing like being able to read your opponents' minds!

Scary thought actually. Especially with some of the talent Anae could get at UNLV.

2nd and 2 long pass plays

worst case scenario- interception. Although it would be deep in opponents territory so not much worst than a punt.

Best scenario- Completed for large gain and momentum in your corner.

Most likely scenario- Incomplete, you have a very manageable 3rd and 2. PI also happens quite a bit.

I stand behind every 2nd and 2 deep throw that Anae calls. Even if you know it's coming it's hard to defend with Hall and the BYU receivers.

Statistics: Posted by BroncoBot — Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:07 pm

Re: The way you will know that Bronco has faced the music

2009-11-19T12:46:26-06:00

I was just in LB this week for business. I watched the news, and the coach search there is not main news. UNLV hoops is. In the papers down there, Sanford went out blazing and basically said that UNLV will not be a good program until they upgrade their facilities--that they have the worst locker rooms in the nation. He said the community needs to support the program better, the Univ needs to be willing to pay more for coaches, especially assistants. Stanford was the 2nd lowest paid coach in the MWC. It sounds as if the front runner might be the Steelers RB coach, who was the runner up to Stanford last time, unless they want a college guy or someone with HC experience. Not sure why anyone would want that job really, unless it was there first HC job, though. That community could care less about UNLV football. And that stadium is horrendous. The lighting is worse than some high school fields I have been to.

Statistics: Posted by Lawboy — Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:46 pm