CougarCorner This is the Place, for Cougar Fans! 2013-10-25T16:47:17-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/app.php/feed/topic/15721 2013-10-25T16:47:17-06:00 2013-10-25T16:47:17-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=180096#p180096 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]> Statistics: Posted by mizzoucoug — Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:47 pm


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2013-10-25T15:32:12-06:00 2013-10-25T15:32:12-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=180091#p180091 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]>
False, I am looking at the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters. Once they adjusted we didn't counter back with a response adjustment. We won on over arching skill, and nothing more. We won because Taysom Hill was the best player on that field, and nothing short of a broken leg was going to stop him from winning. It had little to do with Anae's playcalling, which was pretty innefective for most the 2nd and 3rd quarters, and only barely effective in the 4th (because Taysom just started running the ball and not caring about his body). We lucked out a win.

So if Blueisbetter was the offensive coordinator we would have scored 100 points.
Blue is getting all cut up splitting hairs. I'll quote Coach Howell after the game, only 2 stats matter, W's and L's.
can I put you down as a reference on my resume?

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Statistics: Posted by Brayden Green — Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:32 pm


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2013-10-25T15:08:26-06:00 2013-10-25T15:08:26-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=180089#p180089 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]>
False, I am looking at the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters. Once they adjusted we didn't counter back with a response adjustment. We won on over arching skill, and nothing more. We won because Taysom Hill was the best player on that field, and nothing short of a broken leg was going to stop him from winning. It had little to do with Anae's playcalling, which was pretty innefective for most the 2nd and 3rd quarters, and only barely effective in the 4th (because Taysom just started running the ball and not caring about his body). We lucked out a win.

So if Blueisbetter was the offensive coordinator we would have scored 100 points.
Blue is getting all cut up splitting hairs. I'll quote Coach Howell after the game, only 2 stats matter, W's and L's.

Statistics: Posted by stgeorgefan — Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:08 pm


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2013-10-25T14:58:10-06:00 2013-10-25T14:58:10-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=180087#p180087 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]> Statistics: Posted by Brayden Green — Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:58 pm


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2013-10-25T12:48:33-06:00 2013-10-25T12:48:33-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=180068#p180068 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]>
So you both think that the all out blitz (that was brought about midway into the second quarter) was countered effectively by our offensive playcalling?
BYU gave up the safety in the third quarter after back-to-back delayed blitzes by Matthews, so it's obvious that this was still an issue. However, the offense still racked up 154 more yards of offense and 10 points in the rest of the 2nd quarter. And then 228 more yards of offense in the second half and an additional 13 points, despite the sacks, the safety and the third INT.

So, I think it's safe to say that the offensive playcalling was fine. 382 yards and 23 points in 2.5 quarters, after the sack in question.

It's also interesting to note that Lasike was wide open on the pick-6 play. He was 10+ yards away from the defender Matthews (I see a common theme here for Houston's defense). Had Hill lofted the ball, instead of throwing it right into Matthews' hands, Lasike might still be running. Great play call - bad execution.

Also, on the INT in the endzone, Hine was WIDE OPEN. A fake by Hill and a toss to Hine and he catches it standing all alone. Another great play call - bad execution.

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2013-10-24T15:15:42-06:00 2013-10-24T15:15:42-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=180005#p180005 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]>
Blue

That kind of depends on what our defense and special teams do or do not contribute. The BYU offense earned every point it got and overcame horrible field position, their own mistakes, spotty officiating, and the loss of JW in doing so.

Our defense is supposed to hold anybody and everybody below 24 points. Go ahead and subtract the Pick 6, KOR, and Safety. They still gave up 30. You would need to subtract the PI non-call to get them to 23. And if Houston kicked the EP instead of going for 2 - 24. But you cannot subtract that because calls go both ways.

And KOR to the house ain't supposed to happen. Rarely does. And that is one of several places where ST did not do their job.

If the BYU D holds BSU, ND, and Wisconsin each BELOW 24, BYU may win 1 or 2 of those.

Well that pribably depends a lot on who is healthy when those games come.

The D has held anyone and everyone under 24 - well under - until recently. Hopefully they get backcto that.

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I mentioned this earlier. Blue is concentrating on 1 phase of the game, offense. And in that 1 phase, he is looking at 1 quarter(3rd). And even more than that he is looking at what plays were called when houston blitzed.
Stop looking at small portions of the game and look at the overall result, Especially when the cougars won. None of the plays you mentioned made such a difference that the cougars lost. In fact they won on a game winning drive. Be happy we win with a load of mistakes and move on. Otherwise you come off as Anti Robert Anae. If you are fine, but at least start your thread with that premise.

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2013-10-24T13:10:57-06:00 2013-10-24T13:10:57-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=179989#p179989 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]>
Blue

That kind of depends on what our defense and special teams do or do not contribute. The BYU offense earned every point it got and overcame horrible field position, their own mistakes, spotty officiating, and the loss of JW in doing so.

Our defense is supposed to hold anybody and everybody below 24 points. Go ahead and subtract the Pick 6, KOR, and Safety. They still gave up 30. You would need to subtract the PI non-call to get them to 23. And if Houston kicked the EP instead of going for 2 - 24. But you cannot subtract that because calls go both ways.

And KOR to the house ain't supposed to happen. Rarely does. And that is one of several places where ST did not do their job.

If the BYU D holds BSU, ND, and Wisconsin each BELOW 24, BYU may win 1 or 2 of those.

Well that pribably depends a lot on who is healthy when those games come.

The D has held anyone and everyone under 24 - well under - until recently. Hopefully they get backcto that.

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special teams and the defense missed tackles that they haven't missed all yaers in that game. they were a little sloppier than normal.

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2013-10-24T12:56:05-06:00 2013-10-24T12:56:05-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=179982#p179982 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]>
That kind of depends on what our defense and special teams do or do not contribute. The BYU offense earned every point it got and overcame horrible field position, their own mistakes, spotty officiating, and the loss of JW in doing so.

Our defense is supposed to hold anybody and everybody below 24 points. Go ahead and subtract the Pick 6, KOR, and Safety. They still gave up 30. You would need to subtract the PI non-call to get them to 23. And if Houston kicked the EP instead of going for 2 - 24. But you cannot subtract that because calls go both ways.

And KOR to the house ain't supposed to happen. Rarely does. And that is one of several places where ST did not do their job.

If the BYU D holds BSU, ND, and Wisconsin each BELOW 24, BYU may win 1 or 2 of those.

Well that pribably depends a lot on who is healthy when those games come.

The D has held anyone and everyone under 24 - well under - until recently. Hopefully they get backcto that.

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Statistics: Posted by Cougarbib — Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:56 pm


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2013-10-24T12:55:08-06:00 2013-10-24T12:55:08-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=179981#p179981 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]>
Something tells me that if BYU scored a touchdown on every possession but one, and kicked a field goal on that one exception, there would be a thread started on why the offense failed.

With 47 points scored despite numerous hurdles (including mistakes), the offense did just fine.
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So you both think that the all out blitz (that was brought about midway into the second quarter) was countered effectively by our offensive playcalling?
Don't forget that there are two teams on the field. Sometimes the other team makes a very good play. Sorry, but we have to play against another team who unfortunately actually succeeds in some plays. The key is to be successful more often than the opponent. I for one enjoyed that game more than any in a long time.
You didn't answer my question. "So you both think that the all out blitz (that was brought about midway into the second quarter) was countered effectively by our offensive playcalling?"

The key is to run plays to counter what your opponent is doing to take away their advantages. Anae didn't do that. Against a more talented team we lose that game. Boise is a more talented team than Houston, so is Notre Dame, so is Wisconsin.

That right there is a recipe for a 7-5 season. Are you all happy with that?
Your question is as non-responsive to my opinion of the complaints as you thought Iowa's answer was to your question. :skeptic:

That people will complain about BYU's offense is a given ... they complain too much in my opinion (and I have been known to be a complainer too ... so I"m tarring myself with that same brush).

Did BYU effectively counter the blitz? yes. The whole time? no, that can almost never happen (or you'll beat the other team 91-0 and be accused of bullying). Remember, BYU scored as more points in the second half against Houston than all the other 5 teams have combined (iirc). Anae must have done something right. Was he as successful the WHOLE game as I wanted ... no, but then I'd like to see great drives leading to scores everytime. Anae did what Anae does ... he stayed with his plan longer than perhaps he should have. But do you think our last score showed that Anae beat their defensive changes?

Houston's "all out blitz" wasn't brought every play ... though they did stack the box a lot. Could TH checked in to some quick slants or outs and broken them? Probably ... but we haven't seen that happen effectively yet this year. Perhaps that is the next step the offense will take, they do seem to be making progress and improving as the year goes on.

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2013-10-24T10:31:21-06:00 2013-10-24T10:31:21-06:00 https://www.cougarcorner.com/viewtopic.php?p=179962#p179962 <![CDATA[Re: Watch the Houston game again and ask yourself...]]>
Something tells me that if BYU scored a touchdown on every possession but one, and kicked a field goal on that one exception, there would be a thread started on why the offense failed.

With 47 points scored despite numerous hurdles (including mistakes), the offense did just fine.
+1
So you both think that the all out blitz (that was brought about midway into the second quarter) was countered effectively by our offensive playcalling?
Don't forget that there are two teams on the field. Sometimes the other team makes a very good play. Sorry, but we have to play against another team who unfortunately actually succeeds in some plays. The key is to be successful more often than the opponent. I for one enjoyed that game more than any in a long time.
You didn't answer my question. "So you both think that the all out blitz (that was brought about midway into the second quarter) was countered effectively by our offensive playcalling?"

The key is to run plays to counter what your opponent is doing to take away their advantages. Anae didn't do that. Against a more talented team we lose that game. Boise is a more talented team than Houston, so is Notre Dame, so is Wisconsin.

That right there is a recipe for a 7-5 season. Are you all happy with that?

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