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Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T20:20:19-06:00

Does BYU get an invite, or do they finally act on the invite they have discussed? That is the question. The Big XII needs to get to 12, which means adding 3. BYU has to top that list, and next comes Louisville and then a BE team. Obviously, the ship has sailed for Pitt, so the Big XII has already mucked this up.

I don't get Lousyville going anywhere, where is that coming from. I'm from here and there is nothing in the local news suggesting that. For all I care they can crawl back to the MVC where they belong. Who needs a team in red anyway!!!

Go Cougs!

L Hatton
Louisville, KY

Statistics: Posted by KYCoug — Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:20 pm

Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T19:28:05-06:00

Let's say the 4 Super Conferences are the new PAC16, SEC16, B1G-16 & ACC16. The leftovers of the Big12 and Big East form a new conference that also has BYU, Boise, & TCU. Would that be a better situation for BYU than independence or having remained in the MWC? Would that be a better situation than BYU was in two years ago or this year?

I see your point.

I guess this all depends on what happens if/when super conferences come to pass. It is my belief that anybody not playing in one of the 4 super conferences might as well be playing FCS ball. Super conferences are merely the next step to concentrate more money, power, etc. in the hands of the member schools. Schools have been marching towards this since the 80's. BYU was even a vocal leader at one point back then. The big schools got the NCAA out of CFB (which was a fine idea considering how the NCAA treated CFB at the time imho.) That was the first step and ever since, they've been on a path trying to increase revenue and lock the little guys out. Super conferences are just the next step to accomplish that task.

What does "locking the little guys out" mean? I'm not quite sure. NCAA decertification etc.? That is for another post. But I think the point is, if BYU doesn't get into a super conference, they will be locked out and in terms of relevance, might as well be playing FCS ball.

So what good does getting in bed with a bunch of also-rans do for us? I think I'd rather take my chances being independent and scheduling as many big name schools as I could, all in an effort to build relationships with them while making myself as attractive as possible to one of the super conferences by making deals with ESPN, pimping my own TV network that puts my games on TV's across the country/world, increasing my branding etc.

5 to 10 years down the road, if super conferences are established and BYU has been left out in the cold, then I might think about joining a conference like the one posted in this thread.

Statistics: Posted by DarthMagnus — Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:28 pm

Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T19:12:05-06:00

Let's say the 4 Super Conferences are the new PAC16, SEC16, B1G-16 & ACC16. The leftovers of the Big12 and Big East form a new conference that also has BYU, Boise, & TCU. Would that be a better situation for BYU than independence or having remained in the MWC? Would that be a better situation than BYU was in two years ago or this year?

Statistics: Posted by SpiffCoug — Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:12 pm

Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T19:06:08-06:00

This actually looks like a really accurate list of the current BCS teams that are going to be left on the outside looking in if super conferences and a 64 team BCS system come to pass. I wouldn't want to let BYU get stuck in a conference with them. That conference brings nothing to the bargaining table with the BCS power brokers.

Brings far more then being an Indie.

Statistics: Posted by BYUROCKS — Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:06 pm

Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T18:55:51-06:00

This actually looks like a really accurate list of the current BCS teams that are going to be left on the outside looking in if super conferences and a 64 team BCS system come to pass. I wouldn't want to let BYU get stuck in a conference with them. That conference brings nothing to the bargaining table with the BCS power brokers.

Statistics: Posted by DarthMagnus — Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:55 pm

Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T18:33:58-06:00

Does BYU get an invite, or do they finally act on the invite they have discussed? That is the question. The Big XII needs to get to 12, which means adding 3. BYU has to top that list, and next comes Louisville and then a BE team. Obviously, the ship has sailed for Pitt, so the Big XII has already mucked this up.
Assuming this is true (fingers crossed), why not AFA over another school from the BEast? I can't think of one that would make sense other than Louisville - maybe WVU? But the rest? I'd pass.

I too would prefer Air Force as a natural rival to BYU.

It's interesting that Navy and possibly Air Force were being sought by the Big East prior to the Syracuse and Pitt defection. I think Navy sees the writing on the wall re: independence.

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.c ... 2/32135950

Statistics: Posted by Mingjai — Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:33 pm

Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T18:15:43-06:00

Yes. Without delay.

Let's see. If BYU was in the Big 12 this year, going 1-2 OOC would not be an issue, as BYU could still win the conference and get into a BCS game.
you typically only see teams reach the BCS that manage to score more than 1 TD per game.

But it still gives you something to play for.

Statistics: Posted by BYUROCKS — Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:15 pm

Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T16:31:20-06:00

Does BYU get an invite, or do they finally act on the invite they have discussed? That is the question. The Big XII needs to get to 12, which means adding 3. BYU has to top that list, and next comes Louisville and then a BE team. Obviously, the ship has sailed for Pitt, so the Big XII has already mucked this up.

Assuming this is true (fingers crossed), why not AFA over another school from the BEast? I can't think of one that would make sense other than Louisville - maybe WVU? But the rest? I'd pass.

Statistics: Posted by Y 4 Ever — Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:31 pm

Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T16:22:26-06:00

Does BYU get an invite, or do they finally act on the invite they have discussed? That is the question. The Big XII needs to get to 12, which means adding 3. BYU has to top that list, and next comes Louisville and then a BE team. Obviously, the ship has sailed for Pitt, so the Big XII has already mucked this up.

Statistics: Posted by Lawboy — Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:22 pm

Re: New Big 12 - Do we want in?

2011-09-20T16:18:16-06:00

Big XII or BUST. I think it stays together, and OU and Texas are now battling out concessions. Crazy stuff. Beebe goes, Texas agrees to revenue split and OU stays. That simple. Question is, will the greed and ego of Texas agree to it?

And then does BYU get an invite? Or does the Big 12 look to the Big East schools instead? Or does ND have a change of heart due to all of this turmoil...

Too many possibilities, no substance.

Let me know when its all over.

Statistics: Posted by Y 4 Ever — Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:18 pm