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Loss to Boise State

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Take aways:
- The BYU offense can't handle rain
- Our RB position is in big trouble rolling into next season. Allgeier has 56% of BYU's rushing attempts, but 74% of the rushes from the RB position. The only other RB to attempt a rush in the first 6 games is Lopini Katoa. All other rushes come from the QBs (Jaren Hall, Baylor Romney), WRs (P. Nacua, N. Pau'u, S. Nacua), and TE (Masen Wake). Allgeier has been said to be a potential NFL candidate after this season and Katoa is in his 5th year of the program and his family called this his "senior year" in an article earlier this year. Jackson McChesney, Hinckley Ropati, and Mason Fakahua (the only ones not on the injury list) have not seen the field at RB yet. Maybe we'll be looking for a transfer or two.
- If BYU loses the turnover battle, we lose the game.


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Fido wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:37 pm - If BYU loses the turnover battle, we lose the game.
Ding ding ding!


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Re: Loss to Boise State

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I had a few thoughts. First, BSU won the line of scrimmage much more than BYU did. Second, when we rushed three and drop eight, multiple times the up defenders are still 10 yards off the line of scrimmage. The BSU quarterback could dump it off and fairly consistently get 5 plus yards. Third, we never really pressured the BSU quarterback. Fourth, if Jared Hall it’s not going to be any sort of running threat at all, and it sure looked like that today, then I’m not sure he is the better quarterback than Baylor Romney. I understand it’s possible Romney would’ve been held out no matter what because of his concussion, but when you have to respect Hall as a runner as well, it open slots of things up. Today was vanilla in that regard. Fifth, there are turnovers and then there are turnovers. Ours today really hurt. Sixth, BSU ran for over 100 yards against us, something they had not been able to do previous to this game. See my first observation. Seventh, we miss Pili. A lot. Congratulations to the Broncos. They were the better team today.
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BoiseBYU wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:21 pm I had a few thoughts. First, BSU won the line of scrimmage much more than BYU did. Second, when we rushed three and drop eight, multiple times the app defenders are still 10 yards off the line of scrimmage. The BSU quarterback could dump it off and fairly consistently get 5 plus yards. Third, we never really pressured the BSU quarterback. Fourth, if Jared Hall it’s not going to be any sort of running threat at all, and it sure looked like that today, then I’m not sure he is the better quarterback than Taylor Romney. I understand it’s possible Romney would’ve been held out no matter what because of his concussion, but when you have to respect Hall as a runner as well, it open slots of things up. Today was vanilla in that regard. Fifth, there are turnovers and then there are turnovers. Ours today really hurt. Sixth, BSU ran for over 100 yards against us, some thing they had not been able to do previous to this game. See my first observation. Seventh, we miss Pili. A lot. Congratulations to the Broncos. They were the better team today.
The play where we lost Pili was the last time Tuiaki called an aggressive defense. I guess he was that good.


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BSU forced BYU to defend the run from the get go and BYU did not respond . habibi-likio with 75 solid yards at 4.2 ypc and van buren with 3.3ypc that was the difference in this game. I think BSU watched how USU threw all over the place and could not get the run going vs BYU and decided to do the opposite. Seemed their thought was "you'll give up 4-5 yards a play and until you stop the small stuff, we'll take that".
BSU turned 2 fumbles into 14 points and had 4 FGs.
BSU killed another drive with a forced fumble at the 10 yard line.
BYU had several chances in the red zone and had to settle for FG attempts or turnover on downs.

BYU's defensive philosophy, finally bit them yesterday. It seems to work well when ahead and not turning the ball over on your own side of the field. Kept the BYU offense off the field for too long, bent enough to get BSU 12 points out of FGs.

Very frustrating game.


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BoiseBYU wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:21 pm I had a few thoughts. First, BSU won the line of scrimmage much more than BYU did. Second, when we rushed three and drop eight, multiple times the app defenders are still 10 yards off the line of scrimmage. The BSU quarterback could dump it off and fairly consistently get 5 plus yards. Third, we never really pressured the BSU quarterback. Fourth, if Jared Hall it’s not going to be any sort of running threat at all, and it sure looked like that today, then I’m not sure he is the better quarterback than Taylor Romney. I understand it’s possible Romney would’ve been held out no matter what because of his concussion, but when you have to respect Hall as a runner as well, it open slots of things up. Today was vanilla in that regard. Fifth, there are turnovers and then there are turnovers. Ours today really hurt. Sixth, BSU ran for over 100 yards against us, some thing they had not been able to do previous to this game. See my first observation. Seventh, we miss Pili. A lot. Congratulations to the Broncos. They were the better team today.
100% agree that if Hall is not going to be a true duel-threat QB then Romney needs to play when healthy. IMO it's not even close that Romney is the better passer. The first thing that I heard about Hall from all media outlets and "insiders" was about Hall's running ability. I'm not saying he needs to be Michael Vick and running every play. But if he's not going to call his own number every once in a while and keep defenses guessing then quite frankly he's not the better QB IMO.


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I agree. The only argument against this is that Hall needs to learn to be more accurate. Playing him might accomplish the goal faster. If he can't improve, he will not have a NFL career.

Wilson struggled his first two years and then exploded his last year. Hopefully Hall can make the same kind of improvement.


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It's easy to say now but Romney was and is my choice for quarterback. I hope he heals quick.


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