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Postgame interview comment: 'Our inability to get yards in big chunks when we need them is our biggest problem'. Uh, no... your arm strength is, along with erratic, inconsistent play.

You also have an OC that on 2nd and 16 opts for a pass to the flat coming out of a timeout. Let's not forget not going for it either on 4th and inches at the 40.

I miss the days when we had a QB the could hit a receiver in stride...

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Riley has shown the ability to make all the throws we need. Unfortunately, most of the times he's shown that was in 2011.

He's been very inconsistent in doing so in 2012. And he's shown very little of it in the last four games.

Riley is barely a division I-A QB, let alone the pure drop-back passer with an arm needed to make the Y offense go.

Airwolf1984 wrote:Riley is barely a division I-A QB, let alone the pure drop-back passer with an arm needed to make the Y offense go.

I have read this statement alot. While I believe that BYU needs to move on from Riley Nelson, I have a hard time with this statement. Utah State (a Division 1 school which is actually bowl eligible), was upset enough about losing Riley Nelson that they pursued a change in the rules regarding missionary service. Riley Nelson is certainly capable of running the offense. Jake Heaps was also capable of running the offense. It is not Nelson's ability that I am upset with, it is his performance. I believe that Lark, Munns, etc, are all capable as well. We need to see if one of them can perform live. As we saw last year, talent is not always the issue. Sometimes, talent is overshadowed by performance.
That said, I am not arguing that Nelson is even close to the most talented quarterback we have had, I simply cannot support the assertion that he is "barely a Division 1-A QB."

rblack wrote:

Airwolf1984 wrote:Riley is barely a division I-A QB, let alone the pure drop-back passer with an arm needed to make the Y offense go.

I have read this statement alot. While I believe that BYU needs to move on from Riley Nelson, I have a hard time with this statement. Utah State (a Division 1 school which is actually bowl eligible), was upset enough about losing Riley Nelson that they pursued a change in the rules regarding missionary service. Riley Nelson is certainly capable of running the offense. Jake Heaps was also capable of running the offense. It is not Nelson's ability that I am upset with, it is his performance. I believe that Lark, Munns, etc, are all capable as well. We need to see if one of them can perform live. As we saw last year, talent is not always the issue. Sometimes, talent is overshadowed by performance.
That said, I am not arguing that Nelson is even close to the most talented quarterback we have had, I simply cannot support the assertion that he is "barely a Division 1-A QB."

Utah State was the only division I-A school, along with division I-AA Montana State (I think it was) to offer Riley a football scholarship and it was at a time when the Aggies were still posting losing records every year in football. Riley was solid against the competition he played against as a freshman in Logan before his mission, which is why USU was upset to lose him to BYU, but now that he is no longer facing old WAC schools week in and week out, his limitations and ceiling are being exposed.

Airwolf is back.

Airwolf1984 wrote:

rblack wrote:

Airwolf1984 wrote:Riley is barely a division I-A QB, let alone the pure drop-back passer with an arm needed to make the Y offense go.

I have read this statement alot. While I believe that BYU needs to move on from Riley Nelson, I have a hard time with this statement. Utah State (a Division 1 school which is actually bowl eligible), was upset enough about losing Riley Nelson that they pursued a change in the rules regarding missionary service. Riley Nelson is certainly capable of running the offense. Jake Heaps was also capable of running the offense. It is not Nelson's ability that I am upset with, it is his performance. I believe that Lark, Munns, etc, are all capable as well. We need to see if one of them can perform live. As we saw last year, talent is not always the issue. Sometimes, talent is overshadowed by performance.
That said, I am not arguing that Nelson is even close to the most talented quarterback we have had, I simply cannot support the assertion that he is "barely a Division 1-A QB."

Utah State was the only division I-A school, along with division I-AA Montana State (I think it was) to offer Riley a football scholarship and it was at a time when the Aggies were still posting losing records every year in football. Riley was solid against the competition he played against as a freshman in Logan before his mission, which is why USU was upset to lose him to BYU, but now that he is no longer facing old WAC schools week in and week out, his limitations and ceiling are being exposed.

Get your sources straight and then we'll talk.
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On January 30, 2006 (the day he committed to Utah State) Salt Lake Tribune reported that Utah and Washington recruited him.

He was "recruited" by them, but they didn't give him a scholly offer.

Did he get out of 110th worst quarterback yet?

Riley is not barely a division one QB and he clearly has the arm strength to make the throws-- if you've watched enough games you know he can do it. I'm not saying he has a rocket, but I've seen him make all of the throws. THE problem is simply that he does not perform close to where he needs to be and where the team needs to be. His performance is subpar.