Season of disapointment

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Season of disapointment

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This season has officially been a disapointment. This team just seams to find new ways to lose. I know Riley hasn't made all the plays he could have but 2 of the turnovers and, of course, the last one was a total blocking break down. The defense came out so flat footed tonight and got us in an early hole. To their credit, they got it together and didn't allow anything after the 3rd drive. I don't know what the answers are. Maybe Riley Graduating will turn around the tendencies of our offense to play just well enough to lose but that isn't a guarantee. I don't know if replacing the ocoordinator is the answer or even replacing the oline coach. Something needs to change though. it is unacceptable that BYU should lose so many close games.


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Riley (and the decision to play him) cost us 3 seasons. Last year, this year, and next year.

I don't care how bad Heaps was last year (against the good teams we played.) He would have been better than the dumpster fire at qb we have seen this year, and it would be nice to have a senior qb with the type of raw talent he had for next year's murderous schedule.

Or T HIll.

Or Lark.

Or Munns.

Or Kuresa.

You can't tell me that one of these guys isn't better.


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BlueIsBetter wrote:Riley cost us 3 seasons. Last year, this year, and next year.

I don't care how bad Heaps was last year (against the good teams we played.) He would have been better than the dumpster fire at qb we have seen this year, and it would be nice to have a senior qb with the type of raw talent he had for next year's murderous schedule.
Heaps would have kept us out of a bowl game last year. Riley got us 10 wins. I don't see how that was costing us a season last year. When Heaps was pulled vs utah state, he was a broken QB.

I don't know if those other guys are better. The coaches don't think they are. They are the ones that make the final decision. I don't think it is just Bronco having a man crush on Riley, they are seeing something in practice that they don't want to trust in games. Coaches don't put players on the field because of a man crush, they put guys on the field that they think will win games because if they lose they get fired.


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frdbtr wrote:
BlueIsBetter wrote:Riley cost us 3 seasons. Last year, this year, and next year.

I don't care how bad Heaps was last year (against the good teams we played.) He would have been better than the dumpster fire at qb we have seen this year, and it would be nice to have a senior qb with the type of raw talent he had for next year's murderous schedule.
Heaps would have kept us out of a bowl game last year. Riley got us 10 wins. I don't see how that was costing us a season last year. When Heaps was pulled vs utah state, he was a broken QB.
Because the team quit on him.

He did just fine later on in the season filling in for the injured Riley. Heaps would not have kept us out of a bowl game, we would have been just fine against the junior varsity teams to end the year, as he proved. Riley got us 10 wins against garbage teams that any of our quarterbacks could have won with a running game and a defense that played all 4 quarters.

I don't want this to turn into a Heaps V Riley thread. Sorry for bringing it up.

Riley Nelson flat out sucks. He is burning diapers bad against any team that is ranked above the top 100.


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BlueIsBetter wrote:
frdbtr wrote:
BlueIsBetter wrote:Riley cost us 3 seasons. Last year, this year, and next year.

I don't care how bad Heaps was last year (against the good teams we played.) He would have been better than the dumpster fire at qb we have seen this year, and it would be nice to have a senior qb with the type of raw talent he had for next year's murderous schedule.
Heaps would have kept us out of a bowl game last year. Riley got us 10 wins. I don't see how that was costing us a season last year. When Heaps was pulled vs utah state, he was a broken QB.
Because the team quit on him.

He did just fine later on in the season filling in for the injured Riley. Heaps would not have kept us out of a bowl game, we would have been just fine against the junior varsity teams to end the year, as he proved. Riley got us 10 wins against garbage teams that any of our quarterbacks could have won with a running game and a defense that played all 4 quarters.

I don't want this to turn into a Heaps V Riley thread. Sorry for bringing it up.

Riley Nelson flat out sucks. He is burning diapers bad against any team that is ranked above the top 100.
He played better because he sat. They inserted him late in the Idaho state game and struggled initially even throwing a pic. He was throwing to his first read on every down and the defense was simply taking that read away and then he didn't know where to go from there. I don't like the excuse of the team quitting on him, that is just an excuse for his poor play.


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Don't want this to be a Heaps thread. He is going to be great for Kansas.

Riley is horrifically bad. Decent qb play and we only lose 1 or 2 this year.

Max Hall or Beck type play combined with this defense, we go undefeated. That is unquestionable.


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BlueIsBetter wrote:Riley (and the decision to play him) cost us 3 seasons. Last year, this year, and next year.

I don't care how bad Heaps was last year (against the good teams we played.) He would have been better than the dumpster fire at qb we have seen this year, and it would be nice to have a senior qb with the type of raw talent he had for next year's murderous schedule.

Or T HIll.

Or Lark.

Or Munns.

Or Kuresa.

You can't tell me that one of these guys isn't better.
Exactly! You can't convince me that Riley is better than all four of these guys....especially being injured.


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Re: Season of disapointment

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We have no idea if Riley has ruined next year. Next year hasn't happened yet. All we know is he wasn't good enough this year. I don't think a change in OC is an answer, nor do I think he's really a problem. The plays have been there all year, but we just haven't executed them. And these are simple plays we've been missing. Jamaal Williams making a block on a late throw. Riley hitting an easy pass instead of sailing it high.

Next year could be very good. We return a lot.


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Re: Season of disapointment

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Riley's read of and response to blitzes last night was appallingly terrible and cost us the game.


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pikoi wrote:Riley's read of and response to blitzes last night was appallingly terrible and cost us the game.
This. Awful recognition. He also locked in on Hoff far too often. Yeah, Hoff had a great game. But Riley's passing distribution sucked. HE has worse tunnel vision that Heaps did.


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