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Helmet Rule

by billbillbillbill · 2/24/2012

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Another new rule that goes into effect next season is if a player loses his helmet (other than as the result of a foul by the opponent, such as a facemask), it will be treated like an injury. The player must leave the game and is not allowed to participate for the next play.



Current injury timeout rules guard against using this rule to gain an advantage from stopping the clock. Additionally, if a player loses his helmet, he must not continue to participate in the play, in order to protect him from injury.



Data from the 2011 season indicated that helmets came off of players more than twice per game.


So I think everyone noticed an increased amount of helmet pop offs last season. Is this isolated to a type of helmet we used last year or is half our team going to be sitting after each play?
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This is because our players were stupid and did not do up their chin straps tightly.



I for one am extremely happy for this rule being in place. It's been needed for a long time, and I think we'll see a lot less helmets come off once we actually have to have starters sitting because they are too cool to strap up.
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blue42
I hate this rule for a couple of reasons.



First it would have prevented that huge block Reynolds had in the bowl game allowing Riley to find Hoffman.



Second if someone is trying to use it like the injury rule it would result in more game stoppage to "review" to see if the helmet actually came off due to a "foul" by an opponent or not, it effectively stops the clock which is the only thing the team wanted to happen anyway.



Third, this would mean Riley would probably have to sit out of at least half the game becuase of it. I couldn't believe how many times his helmet came off last year, but I don't know if it was because he didn't have it strapped on all the way. It looked to me that most the time his helmet was all snapped up.



I think this is getting to the point of big government trying to interfer when it's not needed.
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SpiffCoug
blue42 wrote:
I hate this rule for a couple of reasons.



First it would have prevented that huge block Reynolds had in the bowl game allowing Riley to find Hoffman.



Second if someone is trying to use it like the injury rule it would result in more game stoppage to "review" to see if the helmet actually came off due to a "foul" by an opponent or not, it effectively stops the clock which is the only thing the team wanted to happen anyway.



Third, this would mean Riley would probably have to sit out of at least half the game becuase of it. I couldn't believe how many times his helmet came off last year, but I don't know if it was because he didn't have it strapped on all the way. It looked to me that most the time his helmet was all snapped up.



I think this is getting to the point of big government trying to interfer when it's not needed.

I know you're just using hyperbole, but BYU ran approximately 450 plays in the six full games Riley played. I'm pretty sure his helmet didn't come off 225 times.



As Hawk said, helmets, for the most part, come off for not being strapped on properly.



Believe nothing. ;)
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blue42
SpiffCoug wrote:
I hate this rule for a couple of reasons.



First it would have prevented that huge block Reynolds had in the bowl game allowing Riley to find Hoffman.



Second if someone is trying to use it like the injury rule it would result in more game stoppage to "review" to see if the helmet actually came off due to a "foul" by an opponent or not, it effectively stops the clock which is the only thing the team wanted to happen anyway.



Third, this would mean Riley would probably have to sit out of at least half the game becuase of it. I couldn't believe how many times his helmet came off last year, but I don't know if it was because he didn't have it strapped on all the way. It looked to me that most the time his helmet was all snapped up.



I think this is getting to the point of big government trying to interfer when it's not needed.

I know you're just using hyperbole, but BYU ran approximately 450 plays in the six full games Riley played. I'm pretty sure his helmet didn't come off 225 times.



As Hawk said, helmets, for the most part, come off for not being strapped on properly.



Believe nothing. ;)


Don't know what you mean here I never studied hyperbole in school, must have been one of those advanced classes :whistle: but his helmet did come off in abundance. I really think it was because he wanted the viewing public to see his flowing golden locks of hair.
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Schmoe
blue42 wrote:



Don't know what you mean here I never studied hyperbole in school, must have been one of those advanced classes...


http://prezi.com/jgjy2vyphalr/hyperbole/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



You're welcome :D
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trueblue72
Riley does strap his helmet up, but its not tight enough, watch him grab his facemask, his helmet moves around his head. Also players use thinner ear pads than they should, thick ear pads force the player to pull the sides of the helmet out to get them on, most players just slide their helmets on with ease nowadays which means helmet is too big or ear pads are too small. Big ear pads pinch the helmets on the head. Air bladders are also not inflated properly. But the biggest culprit in my opinion is the plastic fasteners we use. If we switched to metal fasteners I think we'd see the problem solved.



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blue42
Schmoe wrote:



Don't know what you mean here I never studied hyperbole in school, must have been one of those advanced classes...


http://prezi.com/jgjy2vyphalr/hyperbole/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



You're welcome :D


I really know what it means, I have seen that about a million times!
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SpiffCoug
blue42 wrote:
blue42 wrote:



Don't know what you mean here I never studied hyperbole in school, must have been one of those advanced classes...


http://prezi.com/jgjy2vyphalr/hyperbole/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



You're welcome :D


I really know what it means, I have seen that about a million times!

Really? A million times? ;)
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Schmoe
blue42 wrote:
blue42 wrote:



Don't know what you mean here I never studied hyperbole in school, must have been one of those advanced classes...


http://prezi.com/jgjy2vyphalr/hyperbole/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



You're welcome :D


I really know what it means, I have seen that about a million times!


I figured you actually did since you're always sarcastic.
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snoscythe
QBs generally don't strap them up as tight because they are one of two players on offense who need to be able to talk/yell/be heard right up until the ball is snapped for audibles (the other being the lineman responsible for calling out the blocking scheme). Looks like they might need to work on yelling with minimal jaw movement.
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Florwood
Schmoe wrote:
Schmoe wrote:



Don't know what you mean here I never studied hyperbole in school, must have been one of those advanced classes...


http://prezi.com/jgjy2vyphalr/hyperbole/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



You're welcome :D


I really know what it means, I have seen that about a million times!


I figured you actually did since you're always sarcastic.


Ironic yes, sarcastic not as much.
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Schmoe
Florwood wrote:
blue42 wrote:
blue42 wrote:



Don't know what you mean here I never studied hyperbole in school, must have been one of those advanced classes...


http://prezi.com/jgjy2vyphalr/hyperbole/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



You're welcome :D


I really know what it means, I have seen that about a million times!


I figured you actually did since you're always sarcastic.


Ironic yes, sarcastic not as much.


Sarcasm is the starkest form of verbal irony.
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tww
This really is a bad rule. I can't imagine the ridicules logic behind it. It will force them to institute more enforcement against hand to helmet contact of any kind, which screw up the game.



I am not sure where this notion comes from that helmets coming off has to do with the tightness of the chin strap. If the chin strap unsnaps it has nothing to do with tightness but is an equipment failure. That is the reason they went to double snaps in the first place. If the snaps release, it is because of the snaps and nothing else. They need to use stronger snaps.



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scott715
Super glue should solve that problem.
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SpiffCoug
Somebody mentioned earlier of changing from snaps (either metallic or plastic) to velcro closures. Would that change affect anything?
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Stirfry
I'm ok with the idea of this rule because helmets do seem to be coming off way more often the last few years and it seems like it's way more that 2x per game.



So what if a replay reveals that the opponent did something illegal to pull of the helmet? Will they call a penalty on the opponent or just allow the player whose helmet came off to stay in the game? (penalties are never called on replays correct?) My memory of the last time Pitta played at TCU was seeing him constantly picking up his helmet on plays where he never saw the ball. The broadcast never showed what was happening but somehow his helmet was constantly coming off on play's he wasn't involved in. The homer in me assumed he was being manhandled down field by dirty TCU.
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CougarClaw
Think about this next time we play an Andrew Luck or a Sam Bradford. Everytime the defense can get his helmet off, we get a guaranteed play against a backup.

Rules just gave the defense a major weapon against key skill positions.



Learning how to get helmets off just became a new defensive team drill.
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BigCougsFan
Stirfry wrote:
I'm ok with the idea of this rule because helmets do seem to be coming off way more often the last few years and it seems like it's way more that 2x per game.



So what if a replay reveals that the opponent did something illegal to pull of the helmet? Will they call a penalty on the opponent or just allow the player whose helmet came off to stay in the game? (penalties are never called on replays correct?) My memory of the last time Pitta played at TCU was seeing him constantly picking up his helmet on plays where he never saw the ball. The broadcast never showed what was happening but somehow his helmet was constantly coming off on play's he wasn't involved in. The homer in me assumed he was being manhandled down field by dirty TCU.


Dennis "The Pop-off" Pitta



He never had a helmet on. Ironically... His helmet never pops off in the NFL.



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blue42
Schmoe wrote:
Schmoe wrote:



Don't know what you mean here I never studied hyperbole in school, must have been one of those advanced classes...


http://prezi.com/jgjy2vyphalr/hyperbole/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



You're welcome :D


I really know what it means, I have seen that about a million times!


I figured you actually did since you're always sarcastic.


Am I really always sarcastic? I don't mean to be, I guess that is my true nature! BTW this isn't meant to be sarcastic.
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