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by Qman · 11/17/2009

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GolfDiveNCougs
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GolfDiveNCougs
We're doing really well forcing turnovers and capitalizing. Gotten 14 TO's from them, and scored 20 points. Sounding good. Efficient. They're beating us on offensive rebounds 11-9. Hmm. Could go for a bit more agressiveness.



And JT is now 1 for 9 shooting. Gaaahhhh!!! He absolutely WON'T pass up a shot, even when he's not feeling it! :sick:
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craigoscarson
GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
We're doing really well forcing turnovers and capitalizing. Gotten 14 TO's from them, and scored 20 points. Sounding good. Efficient. They're beating us on offensive rebounds 11-9. Hmm. Could go for a bit more agressiveness.



And JT is now 1 for 9 shooting. Gaaahhhh!!! He absolutely WON'T pass up a shot, even when he's not feeling it! :sick:


One thing that Bradley did well was get back on defense; even if it meant giving up offensive rebounds. I wrote just this week on the "other site" that well hell, I'll copy it (I'm too lazY)

There's more to a quality player than how much they can fill up the score board. Every team in our conference would trade us their 2 guard to have Jackson Emery on their team (he's that good a defender), and every team in our conference would die to have the depth off our bench that we do. (there are no other teams with Loyd, Haws, Hartsock, Davies, Anderson, Morgan, Magnusson sitting their pine waiting for their minutes)



There are ways to use that depth and exploit the opposing team. Bradley knew this and planned accordingly; a plan that kept them close but offered very little resistance as far as us getting the W.



Even though we shot poorly and played poorly at times againt a very good Bradley team, we were always in control of the game. Why?



Because Bradley was so afraid of our fast break that they got back on defense and turned their backs on offensive rebounds. They were so afraid that in our place, with our altitude, and our offensive philosophy, that if they got in a track race with us, that we'd start unloading our horses from the bench and they'd be wasted by the end of the 1st half.

(there will be teams that stupidly decide they want to run with us.... they will regret it)



If BYU manages not to needlessly foul Bradley, we win this game by 30 because they could not score, save the occasional 3.



Idaho State is playing into our hands by attempting to run with us (which is leading to their turnovers and our transition points)

Bottom line, Obrien cannot coach and he's emotionally letting this game get out of control by coaching into our laps...
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BYUROCKS
WTH is up with JT ?
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GolfDiveNCougs
Jax drills back to back 3's! 19 points off of 5-7 from 3. Kid is on FIRE! Can't say enough good about Emery! 11-0 run to get it back up to 67-42.
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craigoscarson
JT obviously is having some confidence issues shooting. Not much different than a baseball player that gets a hitch in their swing.



The easiest way to get out of it, is to concentrate on doing everything else well; take the ball to the rim (which JT can do) and let the game flow naturally. He's forced a few shots and his rhythmn is off.



Good to see Jackson have a solid offensive game. He has looked great on D all year but I haven't seen anything that would make me think he had much confidence in his scoring.



We'll need a good game from all our shooters on the road vs Hawaii..
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GolfDiveNCougs
Jax grabs back-to-back offensive rebounds as well. Kid is EVERYWHERE! Oh, and ISU's top scorer in their previous two games (21 and 19 pts), their guard Gilchrist... venture a guess? Yeah, 3 points total. Venture a guess at who is guarding him???

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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GolfDiveNCougs
87 - 53 Final. Good solid game. Great pressure, some players stepped up unexpectedly. I'm becoming a big fan of Haws. He's got a bit of the foul bug, but I'm sure that's a function of catching up to the speed of the college game. In high school, he was used to blowing by guys as slow as I was. ;)



All players scored except Zylstra, who got the fewest minutes at the end. Everyone's looking solid!
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GolfDiveNCougs
Wow. Bengals had precisely ZERO fastbreak points. Maybe I shouldn't worry too much about any perceived lack in offensive boards. We still ended up doing well there too. By the end we out O-boarded them 15 to 12.
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craigoscarson
GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
87 - 53 Final. Good solid game. Great pressure, some players stepped up unexpectedly. I'm becoming a big fan of Haws. He's got a bit of the foul bug, but I'm sure that's a function of catching up to the speed of the college game. In high school, he was used to blowing by guys as slow as I was. ;)



All players scored except Zylstra, who got the fewest minutes at the end. Everyone's looking solid!




Davies and Haws are fouling some. They're just not used to letting a play go and keeping their hands in.



The beauty is that there isn't a position that would kill us if a guy gets in foul trouble (though we'd hate to see Jimmer get in trouble)



Jackson is a stone cold killer on D; when he scores too, we're scary good.
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GolfDiveNCougs
My favorite defensive play of his last season, literally most amazing play I've ever seen...



Screen seals on-ball defender, leaving only Jax to cover the drive AND the post on the same side. Commits to the dribble (duh), post L-moves baseline, and Jax goes FLAT OUT HORIZONTAL to tip the pass, not a reason in HELL he should have gotten so much as a fingertip on it, hits the floor HARD, but pops up so fast he actually beats the would-be recipient to the loose ball. I almost CRIED.



I'm SO psyched to see what he's going to do for us this season!
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craigoscarson
GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
My favorite defensive play of his last season, literally most amazing play I've ever seen...



Screen seals on-ball defender, leaving only Jax to cover the drive AND the post on the same side. Commits to the dribble (duh), post L-moves baseline, and Jax goes FLAT OUT HORIZONTAL to tip the pass, not a reason in HELL he should have gotten so much as a fingertip on it, hits the floor HARD, but pops up so fast he actually beats the would-be recipient to the loose ball. I almost CRIED.



I'm SO psyched to see what he's going to do for us this season!


I was at the Tulsa game when he literally got flipped on his head and shoulder...



Ironically, Charles Abouo had his best game of the year and shut down all of Tulsas guards when Jackson went out.



Miles outplayed Tulsas future NBA bigman too..



There's a chance we play Tulsa later this year (and Tulsa returns those guys) that would be a very good game, but we dont' win it if JT doesn't start making shots.



Hawaii isn't going to be a cakewalk next game, we will need to play well.
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craigoscarson wrote:
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GolfDiveNCougs
I think you and I assumed Charles would make us forget Lee. I'm not sure it won't be Tyler this year. The kid comes in and leads the team in rebounds the first game, then leads the team in assists in this one. I'm really liking what he has to offer!
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craigoscarson
GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
I think you and I assumed Charles would make us forget Lee. I'm not sure it won't be Tyler this year. The kid comes in and leads the team in rebounds the first game, then leads the team in assists in this one. I'm really liking what he has to offer!




Its wierd too because Charles has one of the top rebounds and points per minutes played byt he's not getting the type of consistent minutes that we expected; especially after his reported success in Europe and Africa this summer.



I talked to him and Jimmer on the phone this summer and Jimmer told me that Charles would shock people with how much he's improved; so maybe this is just a sign that Haws and Abouo are going to be a tremendous tandem at the 3 (and that we'll still forget Lee)
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beauso79
craigoscarson wrote:
My favorite defensive play of his last season, literally most amazing play I've ever seen...



Screen seals on-ball defender, leaving only Jax to cover the drive AND the post on the same side. Commits to the dribble (duh), post L-moves baseline, and Jax goes FLAT OUT HORIZONTAL to tip the pass, not a reason in HELL he should have gotten so much as a fingertip on it, hits the floor HARD, but pops up so fast he actually beats the would-be recipient to the loose ball. I almost CRIED.



I'm SO psyched to see what he's going to do for us this season!


I was at the Tulsa game when he literally got flipped on his head and shoulder...



Ironically, Charles Abouo had his best game of the year and shut down all of Tulsas guards when Jackson went out.



Miles outplayed Tulsas future NBA bigman too..



There's a chance we play Tulsa later this year (and Tulsa returns those guys) that would be a very good game, but we dont' win it if JT doesn't start making shots.



Hawaii isn't going to be a cakewalk next game, we will need to play well.


I'm sorry but I'm ready for the JT ERA to be over with. I'd love to see what Hartsock could do with a full-time gig. If we live and die on JT's game showing up it's going to be a long season. Hartsock has looked good in limited minutes and has a soft touch around basket and at least Hartsock tries to score in the paint. I don't think I've seen JT score in the post yet this year. It will be sweet having Hartsock and CC man the 4 for us next year.
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craigoscarson
beauso79 wrote:
GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
My favorite defensive play of his last season, literally most amazing play I've ever seen...



Screen seals on-ball defender, leaving only Jax to cover the drive AND the post on the same side. Commits to the dribble (duh), post L-moves baseline, and Jax goes FLAT OUT HORIZONTAL to tip the pass, not a reason in HELL he should have gotten so much as a fingertip on it, hits the floor HARD, but pops up so fast he actually beats the would-be recipient to the loose ball. I almost CRIED.



I'm SO psyched to see what he's going to do for us this season!


I was at the Tulsa game when he literally got flipped on his head and shoulder...



Ironically, Charles Abouo had his best game of the year and shut down all of Tulsas guards when Jackson went out.



Miles outplayed Tulsas future NBA bigman too..



There's a chance we play Tulsa later this year (and Tulsa returns those guys) that would be a very good game, but we dont' win it if JT doesn't start making shots.



Hawaii isn't going to be a cakewalk next game, we will need to play well.


I'm sorry but I'm ready for the JT ERA to be over with. I'd love to see what Hartsock could do with a full-time gig. If we live and die on JT's game showing up it's going to be a long season. Hartsock has looked good in limited minutes and has a soft touch around basket and at least Hartsock tries to score in the paint. I don't think I've seen JT score in the post yet this year. It will be sweet having Hartsock and CC man the 4 for us next year.


I think we kind of dispelled the fact that we live and die on JTs game showing up. We dominated this game and JT didn't show up offensively. That doesn't mean that we don't need JT; we do. He's a better option than Hartsock and brings more to the team. And yes, he'll have nights like this; but if you recall, most fans on the old board had their panties in a wad til JT said he was coming back.

Why? Because JT has the ability to nearly single handidly win games when he's on. Hartsock is solid (remember you'e talking to a real life friend of the Hartsock family) but JT has not only earned his starting spot, he deserves it with his ability. He has incredbly quick hands on defense, he's a great passer, he's a solid free throw shooter and deadly outside when he's on.

It's good to see that we don't need JT to win and win big, but there will be games that we'll all be very glad he's a Cougar. Tonight just wasn't one.
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beauso79 wrote:
I'm ready for the JT ERA to be over with. I'd love to see what Hartsock could do with a full-time gig.

JT led the team in both rebounding and assists last season and was 2nd in scoring. So far this season, he hasn't duplicated that, but in the off-season after he came back from the Brazilian National Team Coach Rose said JT was improved from a season ago. We're lucky he didn't go pro internationally somewhere. I think he'll be our 2nd best player again this season, give him time. And I think we will miss his play next season (though he's not completely "unreplaceable").



The look we haven't seen much yet this season with Tavernari is when he is playing with both Miles and Davies in the game. I'm curious how that might help to play up his strengths.
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kiwibacon
Ok...so I did not watch the game but reading from the MWCboard I noticed that BYU shot 14 out of 15 from the line. Is that stat right? I don't remember BYU being that good from the line last year. What I do remember is that we had a few players that we 50% shooters and some that were 80-90% shooters...but I don't know what the team was as a whole. What did we shoot from the line in earlier games. I hope that we will be consistent in that time of free throw shooting. That can make a close game turn into a comfortable win.
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craigoscarson
kiwibacon wrote:
Ok...so I did not watch the game but reading from the MWCboard I noticed that BYU shot 14 out of 15 from the line. Is that stat right? I don't remember BYU being that good from the line last year. What I do remember is that we had a few players that we 50% shooters and some that were 80-90% shooters...but I don't know what the team was as a whole. What did we shoot from the line in earlier games. I hope that we will be consistent in that time of free throw shooting. That can make a close game turn into a comfortable win.


I think the ft% was a bit of a fluke; don't get used to it. Davies and Miles are poor ft shooters; however Haws knows how to get to the line and is a great ft shooter, Emery has improved from the line and gets fouled a lot and Jimmer is going to get his; so who knows maybe we'll improve a tad.

(If I recall correctly, Haws shot 24/24 in a single high school game from the line last year; he's used to getting abused and making opposing teams pay for it)



The issue will always be with our big men and their touches... I don't think that % will change much from last year when it's all settled; but the rest of our offense has improved enough to help cushion the blow of having Miles on the line during games.
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