by BYUROCKS · 12/23/2009
scott715 wrote:
Air Force will have their hands full trying to defend that air attack. Hopefully the extra prep time will help them prepare for it. A win would be huge for the conference.
BYUROCKS wrote:Air Force will have their hands full trying to defend that air attack. Hopefully the extra prep time will help them prepare for it. A win would be huge for the conference.
Well I think it was MSN, that was saying that AFA is one of the top 10 Pass D's in the nation...
hawkwing wrote:scott715 wrote:
Air Force will have their hands full trying to defend that air attack. Hopefully the extra prep time will help them prepare for it. A win would be huge for the conference.
Well I think it was MSN, that was saying that AFA is one of the top 10 Pass D's in the nation...
We absolutely picked apart that pass defense, which was #1 or #2 at the time.
BYUROCKS wrote:BYUROCKS wrote:Air Force will have their hands full trying to defend that air attack. Hopefully the extra prep time will help them prepare for it. A win would be huge for the conference.
Well I think it was MSN, that was saying that AFA is one of the top 10 Pass D's in the nation...
We absolutely picked apart that pass defense, which was #1 or #2 at the time.
Yes, but we had some good RB, and an awesome set of TE's they also turned if over 4 times.
snoscythe wrote:hawkwing wrote:scott715 wrote:
Air Force will have their hands full trying to defend that air attack. Hopefully the extra prep time will help them prepare for it. A win would be huge for the conference.
Well I think it was MSN, that was saying that AFA is one of the top 10 Pass D's in the nation...
We absolutely picked apart that pass defense, which was #1 or #2 at the time.
Yes, but we had some good RB, and an awesome set of TE's they also turned if over 4 times.
Air Force's #1 ranking in pass yards allowed is a joke. Air Force has an opportunist secondary that will turn you over, but the paucity of yards allowed is more a function of (a) their triple option offense that milks the clock and give opponents 10 fewer offensive snaps per game, and (b) the weakest schedule I've ever seen as far as passing opponents go.
Air Force played these three passing juggernauts this season: (1) Army--#119 in FBS for passing yards per game, (2) Navy--#120 in FBS; and (3) Nicholls State--#115 out of 118 in FCS in passing yards. Any team fielding a secondary with a pulse would be in the top 20 in the country if they played that schedule.
For an example of the plays from scrimmage, in the AFA-Navy game (two triple-option teams), there were 127 snaps in an overtime game. With overtime, that is still one snap less than the BYU-Oklahoma game. So, AFA is playing sucky passing teams, and then they are giving those teams fewer opportunities to run plays.
The following quarterbacks have had better than average pass efficiencies against the AFA this season:
Witt (+61)
Weber (+19)
Williams (+26)
Cain (+4)
Clausen (+12)
Hall (+11)
When 6 quarterbacks in 12 games have better than average outings against your pass defense, that tells me your pass defense is average at best.
BYUROCKS wrote:BYUROCKS wrote:BYUROCKS wrote:Air Force will have their hands full trying to defend that air attack. Hopefully the extra prep time will help them prepare for it. A win would be huge for the conference.
Well I think it was MSN, that was saying that AFA is one of the top 10 Pass D's in the nation...
We absolutely picked apart that pass defense, which was #1 or #2 at the time.
Yes, but we had some good RB, and an awesome set of TE's they also turned if over 4 times.
Air Force's #1 ranking in pass yards allowed is a joke. Air Force has an opportunist secondary that will turn you over, but the paucity of yards allowed is more a function of (a) their triple option offense that milks the clock and give opponents 10 fewer offensive snaps per game, and (b) the weakest schedule I've ever seen as far as passing opponents go.
Air Force played these three passing juggernauts this season: (1) Army--#119 in FBS for passing yards per game, (2) Navy--#120 in FBS; and (3) Nicholls State--#115 out of 118 in FCS in passing yards. Any team fielding a secondary with a pulse would be in the top 20 in the country if they played that schedule.
For an example of the plays from scrimmage, in the AFA-Navy game (two triple-option teams), there were 127 snaps in an overtime game. With overtime, that is still one snap less than the BYU-Oklahoma game. So, AFA is playing sucky passing teams, and then they are giving those teams fewer opportunities to run plays.
The following quarterbacks have had better than average pass efficiencies against the AFA this season:
Witt (+61)
Weber (+19)
Williams (+26)
Cain (+4)
Clausen (+12)
Hall (+11)
When 6 quarterbacks in 12 games have better than average outings against your pass defense, that tells me your pass defense is average at best.
47-20, and magic number 6 I rest my case.
snoscythe wrote:
47-20, and magic number 6 I rest my case.And I rest mine.
Mars wrote:BYUROCKS wrote:And I rest mine.
47-20, and magic number 6 I rest my case.
Uh, Sno? Your case isn't just resting..
Air Force has an opportunist secondary that will turn you over, but the paucity of yards allowed is more a function of (a) their triple option offense that milks the clock and give opponents 10 fewer offensive snaps per game, and (b) the weakest schedule I've ever seen as far as passing opponents go.
snoscythe wrote:This excuse is a FAIL because their pass defense PER PLAY is still in the Top 10 nationally...
Their #1 pass defense ranking is still largely the by-product of their offensive scheme...
Mars wrote:Their #1 pass defense ranking is still largely the by-product of their offensive scheme...This excuse is a FAIL because their pass defense PER PLAY is still in the Top 10 nationally...
snoscythe wrote:
And that's a surprise given the teams they've played?
Mars wrote:And that's a surprise given the teams they've played?
Of course. Most of the teams they have played are MOUNTAIN WEST teams!
Mars wrote:And that's a surprise given the teams they've played?
Of course. Most of the teams they have played are MOUNTAIN WEST teams!
snoscythe wrote:snoscythe wrote:
And that's a surprise given the teams they've played?
Of course. Most of the teams they have played are MOUNTAIN WEST teams!
Here's how Air Force's opponents ranked in passing offense (out of 120 FBS teams):
#120
#119
#103
#81
#75
#66
#63
#50
#45
#31
#14
They also played aerial juggernaut Nicholls State, who is #115 out of 118 FCS schools. Their number one ranking comes after playing 3 of the bottom 10 in FBS, and one of the bottom 10 in FCS, but with only playing one team in the top 30. They played 8 teams below average (6 in the bottom 25%), but only 4 above average (one in the top 25%).
Forgive me for not thinking Air Force is a legitimate #1 pass defense. I don't even think they have one of the best two pass defenses in the conference.
After all of that, the point is now moot--after playing Houston, Air Force's pass defense is now ranked #5 after playing the #1 (and still #1) pass offense in the country. If you still think Air Force has the #1 pass defense in the country (or conference for that matter), raise your hand.
BYUROCKS wrote:
You can argue that the only reason the other teams are in the top 25 of passing O, is because they played weak passing D's.
snoscythe wrote:
#14
...only playing one team in the top 30.
