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by SkystheLimit · 1/21/2016

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SpiffCoug
Could you imagine a #5 ranked basketball team from ANY conference getting a 4 seed?
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scott715
Well I guess our best wins were against #5 PSU and #19 OSU on the road. Both of their rankings have fallen since we played them.
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SkystheLimit
scott715 wrote:
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/volleyball-women/d1



We were ranked #16 this week. SD has an impressive resume beating UCLA and Stanford this year.


I think you meant to post this in the Volleyball section.
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scott715
Yep
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SkystheLimit
BlueK wrote:
This is the only site I've seen that puts out a projection for NCAA tournament. It has BYU with a 4 seed. That would give us the first game at home and the second on a neutral field. I actually think BYU will get in on a 3, maybe a 2 if lucky. We do have several top 50 wins and our three best wins all came on the road.



http://herosports.com/news/d1-womens-soccer-2016-bracketology-bubble-watch-5


I can't imagine we would be a 4-seed. We are top 5 in both the RPI and rankings. The RPI will drop after St. Mary's, Pacific and Gonzaga, but we should still be really high. I would think we'd at least go in as a 2-seed.



By the way, we beat Pacific today 4-0 on goals by Hatch, Bailey-Topham (her first career goal), Loomis (her second career goal) and Vasconcelos. Real barn burner of a game. ;)



UPDATE: The goal previously credited to Topham was changed to Calton-Walker.
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SkystheLimit
LMU just beat Pepperdine 1-0! As long as we beat Gonzaga this week, we win a share of the conference title. Five in a row.
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scott715
YES!!!



But will this hurt our rpi?
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SkystheLimit
scott715 wrote:
YES!!!



But will this hurt our rpi?


Hmmm. Hadn't thought about that. It very well could. Of course, we beat LMU, so hopefully not much. I think I'm more worried about how playing St. Mary's, Pacific and Gonzaga will hurt it, even by winning.



Of course, Pepperdine beat us, so they still will have the automatic bid to the Tournament, but we are a lock to get in and be a much higher seed.
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BlueK
SpiffCoug wrote:
Could you imagine a #5 ranked basketball team from ANY conference getting a 4 seed?


That's a good point, and like I said, this is the only bracketology there is for women's soccer. I tend to think BYU gets better than a 4, but I haven't looked closely at the resumes of every other team contending for a high seed.



One thing that will help: Pepperdine lost to LMU so as long as BYU beats Gonzaga they will once again get a piece of the WCC title. NCAA selection committees tend to give extra credit for winning a conference regular season championship.
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BlueK
BlueK wrote:
Could you imagine a #5 ranked basketball team from ANY conference getting a 4 seed?


That's a good point, and like I said, this is the only bracketology there is for women's soccer. The guy who does it admits BYU is a tough case, leaving the door open that he realizes he might be wrong. I tend to think BYU gets better than a 4, but I haven't looked closely at the resumes of every other team contending for a high seed.



One thing that will help: Pepperdine lost to LMU yesterday, so as long as BYU beats Gonzaga they will once again get a piece of the WCC title. NCAA selection committees tend to give extra credit for winning a conference regular season championship.
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BlueK
It's not going to help that for two of what were supposed to be two of our biggest wins, Ohio State after being nationally ranked for much of the season, stumbled badly down the stretch and couldn't even qualify for the Big 10 tournament, which takes the top 8 teams. Ouch. And then Penn State did get the #2 seed but lost their first game yesterday to the 7 seed. That sucks. At least they should still make the NCAA tournament.
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scott715
And then PU was ranked. I bet they drop out of the poll now.
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SkystheLimit
BYU fell to #7 in the RPI today. We still have to play Gonzaga, which will drop us even more. I hope we can still get in as a 2-seed.
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BlueK
scott715 wrote:
And then PU was ranked. I bet they drop out of the poll now.


It's the rpi that matters with the committee, and Pepperdine didn't really move there. I think they went from 29th to 30th. LMU has a good record and decent SOS, so that is why.
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BlueK
SkystheLimit wrote:
BYU fell to #7 in the RPI today. We still have to play Gonzaga, which will drop us even more. I hope we can still get in as a 2-seed.


SMC and Pacific had much worse records than Gonzaga, and it only dropped us like 2-3 spots after playing both of them. I don't think playing Gonzaga will hurt us too much. I actually think the selection committee will treat us pretty well considering that we went on the road to play some good teams and won almost all of those games. People may point to last year but the the difference is that last year's schedule wasn't very strong when all was said and done. We played a bunch of P12 teams last year but most of them had disappointing years. Cal was ok and Stanford of course was very good, but we lost that game. The schedule was much stronger this year and we had a better record against a stronger SOS. We're in a better position this time.
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SkystheLimit
We moved up to #4 in the NSCAA Coaches Poll.
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Mars
SpiffCoug wrote:
Could you imagine a #5 ranked basketball team from ANY conference getting a 4 seed?

Yes. In fact, I think it happened in the past 3 years.
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SpiffCoug
Mars wrote:
Could you imagine a #5 ranked basketball team from ANY conference getting a 4 seed?

Yes. In fact, I think it happened in the past 3 years.

Here are the last 10 years:

2016 #5 Oregon, was a 1 Seed

2015 #5 Arizona, was a 2 Seed

2014 #5 Louisville, was a 4 Seed

2013 #5 Miami, was a 2 Seed

2012 #5 Michigan St, was a 1 Seed

2011 #5 Notre Dame, was a 2 Seed

2010 #5 Ohio St, was a 2 Seed

2009 #5 Connecticut, was a 1 Seed

2008 #5 Tennessee, was a 2 Seed

2007 #5 Memphis, was a 2 Seed



So while it has happened in the relative recent pass, it's pretty clear that a #5 ranking does not warrant a #4 seed and that team should be a 2 seed at worst.
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