Cruz: "Make the sand glow in the Middle East" and "move US embassy to Jerusalem."

And now the Donald has specifically said that he would consider using nuclear bombs in the middle east we're back around on this topic to Trump being the worst choice.

SpiffCoug wrote:

I'll take a man, no matter how clumsy verbally, who has a bit of restraint....

When has Trump ever demonstrated even the smallest modicum of restraint at any point in his life?

Maybe one if his wives could tell you.

BlueK wrote:

jvquarterback wrote:
I'll take a man, no matter how clumsy verbally, who has a bit of restraint....

When has Trump ever demonstrated even the smallest modicum of restraint at any point in his life?

Maybe one if his wives could tell you.

Or maybe one of Cruz's mistresses. Trump has restrained himself from talking about them.

jvquarterback wrote:

SpiffCoug wrote:

I'll take a man, no matter how clumsy verbally, who has a bit of restraint....

When has Trump ever demonstrated even the smallest modicum of restraint at any point in his life?

Maybe one if his wives could tell you.

Or maybe one of Cruz's mistresses. Trump has restrained himself from talking about them.

yeah, whatever. Trump would be all over that if it were true.

BlueK wrote:

BlueK wrote:

jvquarterback wrote:
I'll take a man, no matter how clumsy verbally, who has a bit of restraint....

When has Trump ever demonstrated even the smallest modicum of restraint at any point in his life?

Maybe one if his wives could tell you.

Or maybe one of Cruz's mistresses. Trump has restrained himself from talking about them.

yeah, whatever. Trump would be all over that if it were true.

Not only him, so would the MSM

To most Trump voters, the Enquirer is as mainstream media as it gets.

SpiffCoug wrote:
Yep, if you disagree with Trump, it means you're a Democrat. Of course, if we were Democrats we would more closely align with Trump's real political opinions, positions and philosophy.

If you tell people to vote for a democrat, the worst democrat in the history of democrats running for president, I don't think it's a stretch to say you're a democrat, particularly when you are unable to come up with even a single instance where Trump says anything of substance that is different from Cruz's positions other than reconsidering NATO alliances, not pestering Russia and China, and getting troops out of the absurdity that is the middle east. There's some restraint for you.

jvquarterback wrote:
a democrat, the worst democrat in the history of democrats running for president, I don't think it's a stretch to say you're a democrat.

I couldn't have described Trump any better myself!

jvquarterback wrote:
particularly when you are unable to come up with even a single instance where Trump says anything of substance that is different from Cruz's positions other than reconsidering NATO alliances, not pestering Russia and China, and getting troops out of the absurdity that is the middle east. There's some restraint for you.

Yes, so OTHER than the ones you already listed here are a few:

The Donald has said women who have abortions should be punished, possibly with jail time.

The Donald has said he is perfectly ok with raising taxes on the wealthy.

The Donald has said he admires tyrants like Putin.

The Donald has bragged about having affairs with married women.

The Donald wants to change the GOP's platform on abortion.

The Donald opposes free trade.

The Donald wants to impose extremely high tariffs that will further stifle the economy.

The Donald wants to economically imprison businesses so that they can't leave the country.



To be fair, it's tough to nail The Donald down on what he says because he is constantly changing what he says and what his positions are. This is what happens when you have a Democrat with no governing principles or morals masquerading around the Republican primary trying to be a conservative. He has no clue what his positions are. He has no clue what he'll actually do as president.



So when he loses 40+ states to Hillary, don't come complaining to people like me and Hawk.



And for the record, we have never told people to vote for a Democrat. That's because we oppose voting for a Democrat in Hillary Clinton and we oppose voting for a Democrat in The Donald.

Again, those positions are no different than Cruz's and quite a bit better than Clinton's. In fact, on the abortion issue, Trump is more in line with the teachings of the church. Here is a transcript of the portion of the interview in question:

TRANSCRIPT



Savannah Guthrie: The Republican platform every 4 years has a provision that states that the right of the unborn child shall not be infringed, and it makes no exceptions for rape, for incest, or for the life of the mother. Would you want to change the Republican platform to include the exceptions that you have?



Donald Trump: Yes I would. Yes I would. Absolutely. For the three exceptions. I would.



Guthrie: Would you have an exception for the health of the mother?



Trump: I would leave it to the life of the mother, but I absolutely would have the three exceptions.

The enmity I see among many Mormons toward Trump astounds me.

BlueK wrote:
There are many fairly deep-rooted reasons why Trump is very unpopular among LDS. This article tries to explain why to a non-LDS audience. It's crazy that he could very well not even carry utah in the general election. The world has gone wacko.



http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/donald-trump-gop-mormon-vote-utah/474819/

It's unfortunate members of the Church are unable to see that all of the problems with Trump are just as bad or worse with Cruz and Clinton. I used to support Cruz, but his proposals for banning Muslims are no different than Trump's, and, from what I understand, Cruz is just as, if not more apt to use crude language than Trump. Mormon's like to pretend they can take a joke, but the backlash after Trump asked if Romney is really a Mormon is just crazy.



Now if the idiots writing in the Atlantic are correct and Trump is the next Governor Boggs, all the Mormons baiting Trump, who is very likely to win the nomination and the presidency, are even more stupid than they are naive in their unfounded belief that Trump is any different than Cruz, Kasich, or Clinton.

jvquarterback wrote:
all the Mormons baiting Trump, who is very likely to win the nomination and the presidency

lol

The Donald has said women who have abortions should be punished, possibly with jail time. When has Cruz said women who have abortions should be punished?



The Donald has said he is perfectly ok with raising taxes on the wealthy.

When has Cruz said taxes on the wealthy should be raised?



The Donald has said he admires tyrants like Putin.

When has Cruz said tyrants like Putin are good leaders?



The Donald has bragged about having affairs with married women.

When has Cruz said he enjoys having affairs with married women?



The Donald wants to change the GOP's platform on abortion.

When has Cruz said the GOP platform position on abortion should change?



The Donald opposes free trade.

When has Cruz said free trade is wrong?



The Donald wants to impose extremely high tariffs that will further stifle the economy.When has Cruz said would should impose high tariffs?



The Donald wants to economically imprison businesses so that they can't leave the country.

When has Cruz said companies who try to leave or more jobs overseas should be punished?



Sorry, but Trump's "positions" on these issues are very different than Cruz's and he's wrong on every single one of them.

jvquarterback wrote:
all the Mormons baiting Trump, who is very likely to win the nomination and the presidency, are even more stupid than they are naive in their unfounded belief that Trump is any different than Cruz, Kasich, or Clinton.

You're right, we probably are stupid, because if The Donald wins, he likely isn't going to forget those who opposed him. And he'll have no qualms about using the federal government to get back at those who opposed The Donald.



When The Donald winds up losing 40 states in November. Don't come complaining to me. It will not be my fault he loses. It'll be yours and all the voters who bought what that snake oil salesman was pitching.



Oh, one more thing. Cruz didn't call Bill and Hillary Clinton before deciding to run for president. Trump is playing one of the biggest cons in American history. I'm sorry you've fallen for it.

How has Trump conned me? I'm not voting for him. I think he's full of crap. But so are Cruz and Clinton. On some issues Trump is better than Cruz, on some Cruz is better than Trump, though that list is actually pretty short and gets shorter regularly. Both are better than Clinton. None of them will be better than the Constitution party candidate and there's a good chance the libertarian candidate will be better.



Cruz or the media or something has conned you into thinking Trump is any worse than Cruz or Kasich.

jvquarterback wrote:
How has Trump conned me? I'm not voting for him. I think he's full of crap. But so are Cruz and Clinton. On some issues Trump is better than Cruz, on some Cruz is better than Trump, though that list is actually pretty short and gets shorter regularly. Both are better than Clinton. None of them will be better than the Constitution party candidate and there's a good chance the libertarian candidate will be better.



Cruz or the media or something has conned you into thinking Trump is any worse than Cruz or Kasich.

Bingo! Spot on assessment. We live in an imperfect world. However, we do know exactly what Hillary Clinton is - by her history in office. No person in the history of the USA has gone to such extreme measure to be no-transparent as Hillary Clinton with her home brewed server. She did everything she could to conceal and hide her communications to sidestep federal law and FOIA. And she then deleted and wiped 30,000+ emails that belonged to the American people - to conceal her actions. What was so devious and secretive that she does not want anyone to know about? How about coordinating her activities as Secretary of State with foreign govt's, with foreign donations to her Clinton Foundation? Lies about those actions - lie upon lie. To think in any way that Hillary Clinton is a better choice than anyone the GOP eventually nominates is delusional.



Hillary is an an evil, underhanded schemer who has proven the law and Constitution mean nothing to her. Just a bump in the road to be steamrolled.

Trump's latest talking points about the middle east have included using nuclear bombs and sending troops to take away the oil. Not sure how that's getting out of the absurdity of the middle east.



Oh and that he doesn't need any advisors on the middle east because he understands the situation there better than anyone else on earth.

hawkwing wrote:
Trump's latest talking points about the middle east have included using nuclear bombs and sending troops to take away the oil. Not sure how that's getting out of the absurdity of the middle east.



Oh and that he doesn't need any advisors on the middle east because he understands the situation there better than anyone else on earth.

Just vote for Hillary. No problem. She'll fix the Middle East just like she did Libya and Ukraine. Batting 1,000%.

Ddawg wrote:

Trump's latest talking points about the middle east have included using nuclear bombs and sending troops to take away the oil. Not sure how that's getting out of the absurdity of the middle east.



Oh and that he doesn't need any advisors on the middle east because he understands the situation there better than anyone else on earth.

Just vote for Hillary. No problem. She'll fix the Middle East just like she did Libya and Ukraine. Batting 1,000%.

She won't fix the middle east, but she won't mess it up as badly as Trump.

hawkwing wrote:

hawkwing wrote:
Trump's latest talking points about the middle east have included using nuclear bombs and sending troops to take away the oil. Not sure how that's getting out of the absurdity of the middle east.



Oh and that he doesn't need any advisors on the middle east because he understands the situation there better than anyone else on earth.

Just vote for Hillary. No problem. She'll fix the Middle East just like she did Libya and Ukraine. Batting 1,000%.

She won't fix the middle east, but she won't mess it up as badly as Trump.

She's already working in collusion with people over there that want to destroy the US, Western Society, and everything it stands for, all for more money in her coffers. I don't think it gets much worse than that. Instead of some soldiers dying, we'll have civilians dying on American soil.

hawkwing wrote:

hawkwing wrote:
Trump's latest talking points about the middle east have included using nuclear bombs and sending troops to take away the oil. Not sure how that's getting out of the absurdity of the middle east.



Oh and that he doesn't need any advisors on the middle east because he understands the situation there better than anyone else on earth.

Just vote for Hillary. No problem. She'll fix the Middle East just like she did Libya and Ukraine. Batting 1,000%.

She won't fix the middle east, but she won't mess it up as badly as Trump.

Hogwash. Are you anti-2nd Amendment? Hillary is - big time. Do you want to continue open borders and importing 100's thousand Middle Eastern Muslim's that are unvetted and will turn the USA into a Muslim ghetto like Europe? Hillary will - because that's what Obama is doing. You want American gun and ammo mfg's branded as terrorist enablers? Hillary believes that.



Hillary is owned by foreign Muslim countries that do not give a crap about the USA or our culture, let alone our Constitution. Hillary has accepted and continues to accept literally $100's millions from those foreign Middle Eastern interests. Our foreign policy will not protect our interests or those of our allies (Israel). You don't give a crap about those issues - vote Hillary.



Hillary's SCOTUS nominees will shred the Constitution - guaranteed. Vote for Hillary.



God Bless.