Trump and guns!

As hawk pointed out, the other thread was gassed.



Trump today says ""Take the gun first, go through due process second,"



WTH?



Might actually be the first true Nazi thing he's said. This is right up there with the terrible "no fly list" that we've adopted in the states.

Sounds like something a Democrat would say about guns.



Of course, there were two Democrats running for POTUS. One just happened to attach an "R" next to his name.

BroncoBot wrote:

As hawk pointed out, the other thread was gassed.



Trump today says ""Take the gun first, go through due process second,"



WTH?



Might actually be the first true Nazi thing he's said. This is right up there with the terrible "no fly list" that we've adopted in the states.

You cannot believe anything he says. Over the weekend he told the NRA he would never ever ever forsake them. With Trump it is empty, vacuous air.

Taking guns will never, ever work in America. The best that could be done is making certain guns illegal to buy or sell. And even that will always be a small part of the process, probably smaller than making other guns legal to have on you at all times and in all places you may deem necessary (save airplanes).

BoiseBYU wrote:

You cannot believe anything he says. Over the weekend he told the NRA he would never ever ever forsake them. With Trump it is empty, vacuous air.

My oh my, you are filled with hate for Trump. What a closed minded statement - and false. Right from Nancy Pelosi's playbook. Are you sure you aren't a Democrat?



The Heritage Foundation (A conservative think tank) published a blueprint agenda for a new GOP administration in the summer of 2016. Actually in July of 2016. That was 5 months before the 2016 presidential election.



I that Blueprint for Reform, the Heritage Foundation laid out 334 items. It laid out an agenda to build a stronger society, a stronger economy, deregulation, foreign policy, and a stronger defense.



In his first year in office, Trump has completed 66% of those 334 items. That is 220 of the 334 items. That is faster than Ronald Reagan who completed 49% of the Heritage Foundation recommended conservative items in his first year.



Even though you are blinded by your hate, Trump is moving a conservative agenda forward.

Ddawg wrote:

You cannot believe anything he says. Over the weekend he told the NRA he would never ever ever forsake them. With Trump it is empty, vacuous air.

My oh my, you are filled with hate for Trump. What a closed minded statement - and false. Right from Nancy Pelosi's playbook. Are you sure you aren't a Democrat?



The Heritage Foundation (A conservative think tank) published a blueprint agenda for a new GOP administration in the summer of 2016. Actually in July of 2016. That was 5 months before the 2016 presidential election.



I that Blueprint for Reform, the Heritage Foundation laid out 334 items. It laid out an agenda to build a stronger society, a stronger economy, deregulation, foreign policy, and a stronger defense.



In his first year in office, Trump has completed 66% of those 334 items. That is 220 of the 334 items. That is faster than Ronald Reagan who completed 49% of the Heritage Foundation recommended conservative items in his first year.



Even though you are blinded by your hate, Trump is moving a conservative agenda forward.

Nope. I said NOTHING about any agenda and whether he is fulfilling it. I said you cannot believe what he says. And I think these past several years prove that. And I do not HATE Mr. Trump. Hate is too exhausting and time consuming.

Trump is a liar. The sky is blue. The sun is hot. None of those statements are debatable.

Ddawg wrote:

You cannot believe anything he says. Over the weekend he told the NRA he would never ever ever forsake them. With Trump it is empty, vacuous air.

My oh my, you are filled with hate for Trump. What a closed minded statement - and false. Right from Nancy Pelosi's playbook. Are you sure you aren't a Democrat?



The Heritage Foundation (A conservative think tank) published a blueprint agenda for a new GOP administration in the summer of 2016. Actually in July of 2016. That was 5 months before the 2016 presidential election.



I that Blueprint for Reform, the Heritage Foundation laid out 334 items. It laid out an agenda to build a stronger society, a stronger economy, deregulation, foreign policy, and a stronger defense.



In his first year in office, Trump has completed 66% of those 334 items. That is 220 of the 334 items. That is faster than Ronald Reagan who completed 49% of the Heritage Foundation recommended conservative items in his first year.



Even though you are blinded by your hate, Trump is moving a conservative agenda forward.

P.S. You could have just linked to the Washington Examiner story of two days ago from which you lifted your posting.

BoiseBYU wrote:

BoiseBYU wrote:

You cannot believe anything he says. Over the weekend he told the NRA he would never ever ever forsake them. With Trump it is empty, vacuous air.

My oh my, you are filled with hate for Trump. What a closed minded statement - and false. Right from Nancy Pelosi's playbook. Are you sure you aren't a Democrat?



The Heritage Foundation (A conservative think tank) published a blueprint agenda for a new GOP administration in the summer of 2016. Actually in July of 2016. That was 5 months before the 2016 presidential election.



I that Blueprint for Reform, the Heritage Foundation laid out 334 items. It laid out an agenda to build a stronger society, a stronger economy, deregulation, foreign policy, and a stronger defense.



In his first year in office, Trump has completed 66% of those 334 items. That is 220 of the 334 items. That is faster than Ronald Reagan who completed 49% of the Heritage Foundation recommended conservative items in his first year.



Even though you are blinded by your hate, Trump is moving a conservative agenda forward.

P.S. You could have just linked to the Washington Examiner story of two days ago from which you lifted your posting.

I have read and reviewed a number of articles. Including the the actual Heritage Foundation blueprint itself. I could have linked all the articles, but didn't.



You ignore the most important item that Boise is a an Obama loving Trump hater. It is what it is.

Ddawg wrote:

Ddawg wrote:

You cannot believe anything he says. Over the weekend he told the NRA he would never ever ever forsake them. With Trump it is empty, vacuous air.

My oh my, you are filled with hate for Trump. What a closed minded statement - and false. Right from Nancy Pelosi's playbook. Are you sure you aren't a Democrat?



The Heritage Foundation (A conservative think tank) published a blueprint agenda for a new GOP administration in the summer of 2016. Actually in July of 2016. That was 5 months before the 2016 presidential election.



I that Blueprint for Reform, the Heritage Foundation laid out 334 items. It laid out an agenda to build a stronger society, a stronger economy, deregulation, foreign policy, and a stronger defense.



In his first year in office, Trump has completed 66% of those 334 items. That is 220 of the 334 items. That is faster than Ronald Reagan who completed 49% of the Heritage Foundation recommended conservative items in his first year.



Even though you are blinded by your hate, Trump is moving a conservative agenda forward.

P.S. You could have just linked to the Washington Examiner story of two days ago from which you lifted your posting.

I have read and reviewed a number of articles. Including the the actual Heritage Foundation blueprint itself. I could have linked all the articles, but didn't.



You ignore the most important item that Boise is a an Obama loving Trump hater. It is what it is.

Sticks and stones.....

Facts and truth.



You love socialized medicine. It's socialism. My father emigrated from Canada. We have lots of relatives in Canada. Their socialize medicine is not the rosy picture you portray. Think of the VA on a national level where people die waiting for treatment. Canadians get their health-care outside of Canada of they can afford it. That is a fact you conveniently forgot.

Ddawg wrote:

Facts and truth.



You love socialized medicine. It's socialism. My father emigrated from Canada. We have lots of relatives in Canada. Their socialize medicine is not the rosy picture you portray. Think of the VA on a national level where people die waiting for treatment. Canadians get their health-care outside of Canada of they can afford it. That is a fact you conveniently forgot.

Unwarranted assumption Dr. Freud. I pointed out that Canada's system for half the price produces a health outcome, as measured by the World Health Organization, that is better than ours. Those are the facts. Does that make me a socialist? Hardly. Basically Canada is Medicare for all. Is Medicare perfect? No. Should we extend Medicare to all? A question to consider in my book along with is paying twice as much for less care a good thing to continue? I do not think hurling insults will answer those questions.

BoiseBYU wrote:

Those are the facts.

Hardly the facts. And telling the truth about you, is truth. If you consider that hurling insults - too bad.



I've watched you defend Obama and Obamacare for years - years.



By the same token, Trump advances a conservative agenda and rolls back 8 years of Obama at a steady pace, and you post nothing but hate for Trump. Pretty telling.



Is Trump prefect? No. Is Trump the greatest thing since sliced bread? No. Was Trump my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice? No. But considering the alternative - Hillary. Trump is a God-send.

BoiseBYU wrote:

Facts and truth.



You love socialized medicine. It's socialism. My father emigrated from Canada. We have lots of relatives in Canada. Their socialize medicine is not the rosy picture you portray. Think of the VA on a national level where people die waiting for treatment. Canadians get their health-care outside of Canada of they can afford it. That is a fact you conveniently forgot.

... as measured by the World Health Organization .....

You assume the WHO is honest and reliable. It isn't. The WHO is an agency of the United Nations. The United Nations is an anti-American, pro-socialist organization.

Ddawg wrote:

Ddawg wrote:

Facts and truth.



You love socialized medicine. It's socialism. My father emigrated from Canada. We have lots of relatives in Canada. Their socialize medicine is not the rosy picture you portray. Think of the VA on a national level where people die waiting for treatment. Canadians get their health-care outside of Canada of they can afford it. That is a fact you conveniently forgot.

... as measured by the World Health Organization .....

You assume the WHO is honest and reliable. It isn't. The WHO is an agency of the United Nations. The United Nations is an anti-American, pro-socialist organization.

Dude step back. YOU have hijacked this thread regarding Trump and guns to go after me personally and debate whether I am a socialist, a Hillary lover etc etc etc., all because I said we should not believe what Trump said yesterday regarding gun control. None of your rants have ANYTHING to do with Trump and guns. If you want to rant on, start your own thread and rant away.

More proof that TV (Fox news) rots your brains.

Lets stay on topic here. This thread should only be in regards to the public, confirmed comments that Donald Trump made stating, step 1, take away the guns. Step 2, due process.

BoiseBYU wrote:

BoiseBYU wrote:

Facts and truth.



You love socialized medicine. It's socialism. My father emigrated from Canada. We have lots of relatives in Canada. Their socialize medicine is not the rosy picture you portray. Think of the VA on a national level where people die waiting for treatment. Canadians get their health-care outside of Canada of they can afford it. That is a fact you conveniently forgot.

... as measured by the World Health Organization .....

You assume the WHO is honest and reliable. It isn't. The WHO is an agency of the United Nations. The United Nations is an anti-American, pro-socialist organization.

Dude step back. YOU have hijacked this thread regarding Trump and guns to go after me personally and debate whether I am a socialist, a Hillary lover etc etc etc., all because I said we should not believe what Trump said yesterday regarding gun control. None of your rants have ANYTHING to do with Trump and guns. If you want to rant on, start your own thread and rant away.

No rants. I comment on your comments. And I don’t think you are a socialist. I said you like and defend socialist medicine. Which is true. Deal with it.

Are there lawyers around who know if you can constitutionally seize guns and then give due process? It was something Trump suggeste yesterday at the meeting with Congressional leaders. I had assumed that forfeiture laws are kind of like that and that there no absolute ban. Is this correct?

BoiseBYU wrote:

Are there lawyers around who know if you can constitutionally seize guns and then give due process? It was something Trump suggeste yesterday at the meeting with Congressional leaders. I had assumed that forfeiture laws are kind of like that and that there no absolute ban. Is this correct?

Trump is just a bigmouth who will say whatever if it gets him an audience. I'm not sure he fully understands or even cares about what "due process" is or means. The meeting made for some great reality TV, so mission accomplished. I doubt much of anything happens because his main fanbase isn't going to approve of new gun laws.