First NET Rankings Out

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043931/byus-3-point-shooting-among-worst-in-country-so-rose-is-seeking-improvement.html



The NCAA released the new NET (NCAA Evaluation Tool) rankings for the first time. It replaces their RPI. BYU comes in at #94. Gonzaga was rated #5 while WCC teams Loyola Marymount came in at #10 and San Francisco at #25.



So BYU's performance:



#13 Nevada - Away Loss - Tier 1

#181 Utah Valley - Home Win - Tier 4

#332 Northwestern St. - Home Win - Tier 4

#305 Oral Roberts - Home Win - Tier 4

#347 Alabama A&M - Home Win - Tier 4

#256 Rice - Home Win - Tier 4

#18 Houston Home Loss - Tier 1



Upcoming games:



#178 Illinois St. - Away - Tier 3

#219 Weber St. - Away - Tier 3

#37 Utah St. - Home - Tier 2

#169 Utah - Neutral - Tier 3



Also, regarding BYU's awesome three point shooting, they are #309 nationally (out of 351 teams), at 28.8 percent (51 of 177). The good news is that BYU is #7 in the nation in turnovers at 8.9 per game and are #3 in assist to turnover ratio at 1.98:1.

No starting point makes it not very useful this early in the season. LMU a top 10 team? Sweet.

I have no idea why we struggle with 3 pt shooting. You'd think we would have no difficulty finding a 6'5" kid that can drain 3s.

Gunk wrote:

I have no idea why we struggle with 3 pt shooting. You'd think we would have no difficulty finding a 6'5" kid that can drain 3s.

Are we still blaming it on having an expensive practice facility?



That was the last excuse I heard -- that the Marriott Center was too different from the annex where they practice, in essence, that our fancy practice facility makes it so that playing at home is like playing on the road.

snoscythe wrote:

I have no idea why we struggle with 3 pt shooting. You'd think we would have no difficulty finding a 6'5" kid that can drain 3s.

Are we still blaming it on having an expensive practice facility?



That was the last excuse I heard -- that the Marriott Center was too different from the annex where they practice, in essence, that our fancy practice facility makes it so that playing at home is like playing on the road.

Seriously? That's an excuse.



I thought we needed the facility to attract better recruits that could hit more three pointers.

Things are looking up. Last night our 3pt shooters had as many 3s as Childs. And it only took them 18 more shots. :(

We just lost to a Tier 3 opponent. Someone please remind me how awesome this team is and remind me of your guarentee that we'll make the tournament. Right now I'd put our chances at making the NIT at less than 50%.

It's NIT for us if we're lucky.

byufan4ever wrote:

We just lost to a Tier 3 opponent. Someone please remind me how awesome this team is and remind me of your guarentee that we'll make the tournament. Right now I'd put our chances at making the NIT at less than 50%.

Brayden Green? Care to chime in?

Sad, but it looks like Wednesday night's game against USU is a guaranteed loss and Saturday against lowly Utah is a toss up at best. Perhaps Emery will make a difference, though.

Dave Rose is a Top 25 Coach.

Mars wrote:

Dave Rose is a Top 25 Coach.

lol

We don't have anything better than a tier 4 win so far...

byufan4ever wrote:

We don't have anything better than a tier 4 win so far...

Yeah. We needed to win those higher tier games. With those losses, we don't get an at-large bid. Need to win the WCC tourney.

jadesroom wrote:

Sad, but it looks like Wednesday night's game against USU is a guaranteed loss and Saturday against lowly Utah is a toss up at best. Perhaps Emery will make a difference, though.

Nice to know that I'm at least 50% wrong. I hope it gets to 100%

jadesroom wrote:

Sad, but it looks like Wednesday night's game against USU is a guaranteed loss and Saturday against lowly Utah is a toss up at best. Perhaps Emery will make a difference, though.

Nice to know that I'm at least 50% wrong. I hope it gets to 100%

You, sir, are 100% wrong. I bet that never felt so good.



Still, with 4 losses on the season already, it's not looking good for us, and if Yoeli keeps playing how he is, he's definitely not coming back next season.



Next season will be tough. We're likely looking at another two seasons before we go dancing in March.

Gunk wrote:

jadesroom wrote:

Sad, but it looks like Wednesday night's game against USU is a guaranteed loss and Saturday against lowly Utah is a toss up at best. Perhaps Emery will make a difference, though.

Nice to know that I'm at least 50% wrong. I hope it gets to 100%

You, sir, are 100% wrong. I bet that never felt so good.



Still, with 4 losses on the season already, it's not looking good for us, and if Yoeli keeps playing how he is, he's definitely not coming back next season.



Next season will be tough. We're likely looking at another two seasons before we go dancing in March.

The up and downs of sports fandom. You're right....I feel darn good.

I've been very busy, lately. We're young, but good. We're not great, at least not yet. Emery helps, a lot. He's like Hardnett but can actually shoot, with better vision, and plays much better defense.



The team is still figuring out personnel (who plays where, how much) and missing open shots. The bright side to that is that we are getting open looks. December is where I expect us to really get things figured out. The WCC is likely a 3 bid league this year, and I see BYU being one of those 3 teams.



Oh, and Yoeli is straight up Beast Mode right now. He is having a Jimmer type season against great competition. He's gone for sure after this year (which I called two years ago if you dig. I said that he would be this good, would be an nba player, and it's looking to be that way, if he can keep it up).

Brayden Green wrote:

I've been very busy, lately. We're young, but good. We're not great, at least not yet. Emery helps, a lot. He's like Hardnett but can actually shoot, with better vision, and plays much better defense.



The team is still figuring out personnel (who plays where, how much) and missing open shots. The bright side to that is that we are getting open looks. December is where I expect us to really get things figured out. The WCC is likely a 3 bid league this year, and I see BYU being one of those 3 teams.



Oh, and Yoeli is straight up Beast Mode right now. He is having a Jimmer type season against great competition. He's gone for sure after this year (which I called two years ago if you dig. I said that he would be this good, would be an nba player, and it's looking to be that way, if he can keep it up).

The shooting has improved. Haws started his improvement earlier than the others. Harding started very cold from three but has made 60% from long range over the last couple of games. So his season 3pt % is still low, but he looks like a much more confident player and can only get better.



Emery didn't even play that much against Utah but the improved play as a team that started in the USU game continued. He for sure seems to have given the entire team a psychological boost. As he plays more and is incorporated more into the games I think his production will give an additional boost.