Who is the new coach?

snoscythe wrote:

BYU is in the conversation [for the NCAA tourney] every year

......except this year and the year before.

Their two worst years. Yep. They dont lose 3 out of their last 4 and place 2nd in the WCC they would have been.

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Brayden Green wrote:

Brayden Green wrote:



BYU is in the conversation [for the NCAA tourney] every year

......except this year and the year before.

Their two worst years. Yep. They dont lose 3 out of their last 4 and place 2nd in the WCC they would have been.

So, you're saying that if things were different,



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things would be different?

Mars wrote:
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Right. 68.



BYU should be a top 68 team every year. That's not an unreasonable expectation.



Since joining the WCC, we have made it to the finals of the WCC tournament just three times. Forget about winning it. We can barely even get to the finals.

not to nitpick, but if you are the 68th best team in the country you are going to the NIT. To be in the NCAA tournament you have to be one of the top 44-48 teams or win your conference tourney, which if BYU did, they would probably be at least the 44th best team in the country. The last teams in end up as an 11 or 12 seed.

snoscythe wrote:

snoscythe wrote:

BYU is in the conversation [for the NCAA tourney] every year

......except this year and the year before.

Their two worst years. Yep. They dont lose 3 out of their last 4 and place 2nd in the WCC they would have been.

things would be different?

Ha, yep. I'm saying there was a strong chance early, and BYU was a maybe up until the last couple games when it was a definite no.

149 schools have made the tournament since BYU has made the NCAA tournament.

108 schools have won a game in the tournament since BYU has won one.

52 schools have made the Sweet 16 since BYU made the Sweet 16.

117 schools have at least 1 Sweet 16 since the tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985.

74 schools have made it to the Elite 8 since 1985. It could be 76 if Virginia Tech and Houston win this weekend. BYU has zero since '85. 77 schools have made the Elite 8 since BYU reached the Elite 8.

88 schools have made the final four. 43 from '85-'18. BYU has zero.



Of coaches active in 2019, Rose's win pct. in the NCAA tournament ties him for 50th among coaches who have coached at least 10 tournament games. Rose has the 47th best win pct. all time in basketball history.

What's the consensus. rose on the decline, or BYU in a mini slump?

Obviously Rose knows basketball, was a winning coach, is in a tough spot to recruit but he knows BYU well. Hard for me to believe BYU will find a coach at least on par with Rose without some major growing pains.

BroncoBot wrote:

What's the consensus. rose on the decline, or BYU in a mini slump?

Obviously Rose knows basketball, was a winning coach, is in a tough spot to recruit but he knows BYU well. Hard for me to believe BYU will find a coach at least on par with Rose without some major growing pains.

Just my opinion but I don't think Rose was ever happy in the WCC. The team just never had the same fire that it had in the MWC. Look at the home losses in conference. Rose simply didn't lose at home the first few years he was the HC. He only lost a couple home games in the MWC the entire time he coached there. He lost more home games in 1 season in the WCC than he did in years of playing in the MWC. IMO, it was time for him to retire. I am glad he left with dignity, he is still the best HC BYU has ever had and should be honored as such. I hope the next guy can get the fire back into BYU basketball and do in the WCC what Rose did in the MWC when he still had that fire. Like we have seen in football though, it may take some tough years to find the right guy, I hope it isn't too painful.

So a week has passed and still no new coach. That's not totally unusual, but it does now lend credence to my belief that for Mark Pope, the decision to become the head coach at BYU is not a slam dunk as I might have imagined.



Mark Pope is my first choice, but I'm wondering now, in hearing a weeks worth of interviews on the subject, if it is wise to select someone who could be here and gone in a few years.



At BYU, we've generally not ever seen that in our major two sports and one of the arguments as to why BYU hasn't gone the route of tapping coaches with experience at the level of Division 1. It seems like that can work at Division 1 without the added pressure of BYU's grades and honor code. We've seen Puketah and USU have turnover in one of the two programs and still have success. They have RMs to deal with, howbeit not at the number level of BYU, but enough to be disruptive. I just have not heard much to make me believe that Coach Pope, if he does take the helm at BYU would be here as long term as those in the past, unless he flounders.



In Pope's current situation, he has a good core of returning players, some above average recruits and transfers coming in, and possibly a less stressful opportunity to make it to the dance. With his resume thus far of exposure to high level teams and NBA, throw bringing UVU to go successive trips to the Dance, then he is writing his ticket to opportunities at a higher level of gig. I don't know if he will ever make it back to Kentucky as many seem to believe is his dream job, but I think he has a better opportunity to do that at UVU and having to dog it out in the WAC to make it to the Dance than BYU in the WCC.



The only thing that I perceive could turn Pope's head is the money. Definitely more at BYU than at UVU, but if your objective is to reach the level of coaching at somewhere like Kentucky, I believe he could get there easier via UVU than BYU. Just my opinion.

I would hope that BYU and Holmoe are doing their due diligence and interviewing multiple qualified candidates. Even if Pope is the right guy or first choice, I would hope that they wouldn't just blindly offer him the job on day one without at least considering other qualified candidates. Who knows, Barret Peery or Mark Madsen could blow you away in the interview.

Alex Jensen interviewed on Saturday per BYUSN and SL Trib. The Cleveland Cavaliers also supposedly have him on their list of potential candidates.



It's a busy time for him as the Jazz are gearing up for the playoffs so if he wan't really interested he probably wouldn't have interviewed, at least that's what BYUSN brought up and I have to agree with that line of thinking.

Also heard per Ben Criddle that Mark Madsen is interested and definitely wants the job.

How funny that we're hearing the new coach will be named Mark. Which Mark, we're not certain, but this should play out by early next week. I can't imagine it going further.

The posting says it is open till 4/9 (next Tue) and a lot of coaches (including Pope and his assistants) will be at the Final Four hoopla (meaning unavailable for several days) so the decision process isn't expected to even start until mid next week. Decision would probably be end of next week at the earliest.

Jay Drew reports that BYU has interviewed 7 candidates.