Yoeli Childs - Is he going?

snoscythe wrote:

Here's what Rose had to say yesterday about the annual end-of-year early departures and transfers:



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This complacency (in all aspects of his coaching) is why he had to go.

I think through a series of events, cancer, Jimmer hang over, move to the WCC, etc., Rose just became apathetic. I don't think it was necessaryily on purpose or even concious. It just happened.



Easier to recruit in just Utah. With the fame of Jimmer and a Sweet 16 run, that made recruiting easier. Easier to just let players walk instead of convincing them to stay.

Well, I wont begrudge him for trying to make money off his talents. Best of luck, thanks for wearing Blue!

BTW, this isnt a "Rose" thing. This is going to keep happening. There is a new rule that allows athletes to come back to college even after hiring an agent if they go undrafted. They have to hire an agent after getting the approval by some committee. So watch the timing. If he signs after that evaluation, he could come back after weighing his options and (inevitably) not getting drafted.



There are so many playing options out there, and for players that marry young (so that they can follow their youthful urges) the bills add up quick. I remember when I got married, had to move out from my roommates (and pay real rent), and support my fulltime student wife my bills tripled overnight.



They owe it to themselves to at least look.

As a fan of the BYU team of course I want him to stay. But the best advice that someone gave me early on in my career was to always do what was best for me and my family because the company (and in this case the school/team) will always do what's in their best interest.



From a purely selfish fan perspective I wish the BYU players would not get married until after college!



Also, I wonder how many schools have players leave early to play professionally in a non-NBA league. I know many big schools get the one-and-dones and I know every school gets the transfers from one school to another (news flash - this is not just BYU and is not recent), but how many schools have players leave early and not even get drafted? That surprises me as it seems new. But at the same time if I could make a couple hundred grand playing ball I might leave early too.

That's an interesting point.



I would wager that because BYU has a higher rate of married players and have families they need to provide for that there is a higher rate of BYU players leaving early to go play in Europe or Israel. It's money on the table for them.

Gunk wrote:

That's an interesting point.



I would wager that because BYU has a higher rate of married players and have families they need to provide for that there is a higher rate of BYU players leaving early to go play in Europe or Israel. It's money on the table for them.

Maybe, if they're hyper-discounting the future and wanting some instant gratification (not uncommon to the young whipper snappers nowadays!).



But if they're acting rationally, then they'll compare their marginal costs of staying a year (which, let's be honest, are super low in Provo, even if they do triple) with the expected marginal benefit (risk of devastating injury x additional salary). I have no idea what the salary gradient for non-NBA pro leagues looks like, but with so many additional league options coming on board and a still relatively fixed supply, I have to believe that's going to drive up the quality-wage gradient.



Bottom line: A player like Yoeli who has improved considerably year on year and who is likely to improve and have his team improve even more next year, will likely see their salary increase by much more than the cost of living in Provo for a year, even when taking into account the risk of injury.

My strong guess is that the smart move for him is to stay.

Byucougars.com reports that Yoeli Childs is going. "Childs to hire an agent and declare for the 2019 NBA draft. What will the front line look like with him gone? Will the new coach bring someone in. Will the new kids coming in provide what we need. His departure creates a lot of questions.

Baxter is still a bit raw. If Baxter can work on his low post moves and defense we should be okay. No Yoeli, but we aren't destitute.



The biggest factor remains, though. Which will be our 3rd scorer. We need a 4 or a 5 to help down low. Not a stretch 4. A legit 4.

Does anyone in their right mind think Jimmer would have been drafted, let alone been a lottery pick, if he had come out after his Jr season? Not a chance. Yoeli is not going to be drafted, not even in the second round. IMO this is a bad move for him unless his dream is to play over seas. I wish him well, but I just really feel this is a bad move.

frdbtr wrote:

Does anyone in their right mind think Jimmer would have been drafted, let alone been a lottery pick, if he had come out after his Jr season? Not a chance. Yoeli is not going to be drafted, not even in the second round. IMO this is a bad move for him unless his dream is to play over seas. I wish him well, but I just really feel this is a bad move.

Does anyone really think Yoeli would come back for a year and get drafted next year?



I agree it's a bad move, but not because of draft or basketball reasons, but because he's giving up a year of free education. He'll never get drafted, regardless of how long he stays at BYU.

If Yoeli came back to BYU, got cut up and lot 10 pounds. Then with improve athletic ability he might have a chance of being drafted. The problem is that successful NBA players his size can make step back 3's and run pick and rolls. He is a long way from that kind of skill development. And he would have to show he can guard guards on the perimeter. But you are right it is a long shot.

hawkwing wrote:

Does anyone in their right mind think Jimmer would have been drafted, let alone been a lottery pick, if he had come out after his Jr season? Not a chance. Yoeli is not going to be drafted, not even in the second round. IMO this is a bad move for him unless his dream is to play over seas. I wish him well, but I just really feel this is a bad move.

Does anyone really think Yoeli would come back for a year and get drafted next year?



I agree it's a bad move, but not because of draft or basketball reasons, but because he's giving up a year of free education. He'll never get drafted, regardless of how long he stays at BYU.

Imo, if Childs developed a reliable 3 point (college distance) shot, he could have a chance at the NBA. With his size and quickness level, he will never be an NBA post man but with a reliable outside shot he would have a chance. So in other words, if Childs stayed one more year and came out next year and tore up the WCC with his current game and shot 40% from 3, I think he could be drafted.

On BYU Sports Nation he said he and his wife went to the temple and felt they should move forward on the draft.

On paper, I don't think this is the right move, but I respect him for going about the decision the right way, and I respect the answers he feels he received.

Nothing but good wishes for Yoeli. I'm happy for him and hoping he finds success--in ball and life!

CrimsonCoug wrote:

On BYU Sports Nation he said he and his wife went to the temple and felt they should move forward on the draft.

On paper, I don't think this is the right move, but I respect him for going about the decision the right way, and I respect the answers he feels he received.

Nothing but good wishes for Yoeli. I'm happy for him and hoping he finds success--in ball and life!

I agree. I feel I can comment on a message board that I disagree with his decision and still wish him well in his next endeavor.

Childs had a workout with the Sacramento Kings.

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Lots of rumors floating around right now that he is coming back.

So when Pope was hired, I commented that his number 1 recruiting priority was talking Childs into staying one more year. Looks like he did it. This is the best BYU basketball news we have had since Rose talked Jimmer into staying for his Sr year. Good job to the new coach.