What will happen to Henderson!!?

BYUROCKS wrote:

How many kicks would it have taken to improve Nevills looks?

42, (Urroner was the picture at 21)

????????? Honestly people, am I that ugly? I thought I was more like a 15 or a 16, but 21? :sulk: :sulk: :~( :~( :bug: :bug:

What?



Here's part of Jay Drew's blog on talking to Boylen about the incident:



After saying three or four times that Henderson made a mistake, Boylen spent more time talking about a guy from BYU’s bench that he said escalated the situation. The guy he was talking about was Rob Ramos, head athletic trainer for BYU men’s basketball.

After going through the line and shaking all the BYU players’ hands after the game, Boylen made a beeline toward Ramos. He put his hands on either Ramos’ face or shoulders, and said something to the trainer.

In the postgame interview room, here’s what he told us:

“They had somebody come off their bench in a gray suit that was instigating everything. I don’t know what he was doing. But Dave [Rose] was fine. We were fine. Guys were fine.

“You know, there’s good kids on the floor. There’s respectful guys. We were fine. Everything was cool. But somebody came off their bench in a gray suit, and I don’t know what he was doing. I mean, we gotta be the adults.

“You know, I told [Jonathan] Tavernari I would kick his butt after the game, and he laughed. I told Jackson that I would punch him, and he would forget all about [Henderson] punching him. Just trying to calm it down. We got a great rivalry. We got great fans. You know, things happen, but we’re OK.

“Everybody overreacts to everything. Gosh, just keep playing. But you can’t have adults coming in and screwing the thing up. You know, Little League baseball around here.”

Asked if it was a case of boys being boys, Boylen said: “Please dont make a big deal. I know you will, but don’t.”



So Boylen thinks it's Ramos fault?



I'd have to watch the game again, I'm thinking it was in the first half, but once again one of Utah's players was chasing a ball out of bounds that would have gone to BYU. In mid-air he takes the ball and as if he were playing dodgeball, he throws that ball with all of his gusto back at, I believe, Tyler Haws and it ricochets off of Tyler out of bounds. You could see Tyler stand there for a moment with the look on his face, "He didn't just slam me with that ball that hard just trying to get the ball out on me? He stood for a second dazed. Immediately the question came to me, "How fricken hard can they throw a ball at someone to bounce it off of them out of bounds?" Because you could see right away that Haws was taken back by how hard the guy had just hit him with a leather basketball.



When you think about it, are there no rules about throwing a basketball at someone? I've seen this play a thousand times and never until tonight had I remembered seeing another team throw that ball with such force like say, just like I see my Scouts playing dodgeball.



Now I don't want to make this out to be more than it is, but I've seen many a players do this technique, but I just had never seen one doing it like he was trying to hurt the guy. My first reaction when I saw it was, "Hey, isn't intentionally throwing a ball at an opponent and not just trying to knock it out on him."



Believe me, we have Dustin Ryker, the former BYU OLman and Arena Football player in our ward and he hit me in the head with a dodgeball (they're much softer and padded) from about 30 feet and I saw stars, so throwing a BB with the force I saw on that one play and it connects to your head, you easily could have a black eye if not more. I think the concept was in the beginning to glance the ball off the legs of the opponent and get the ball out on them and Utah thinks that means you can heave a ball as hard as you can at any part of an opponents body. I don't think that was ever intended or should be intended to be allowed.



Funny that that thought would come to me in this game for the first time ever and later that would be what caused the Henderson backhand after a BYU player had the same feeling.

urroner wrote:

craigoscarson wrote:
How many kicks would it have taken to improve Nevills looks?

42, (Urroner was the picture at 21)

????????? Honestly people, am I that ugly? I thought I was more like a 15 or a 16, but 21? :sulk: :sulk: :~( :~( :bug: :bug:

so saying your the picture if being half way done, makes up upset ? you would rather be less then half way done ? :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic:

That was the third time Henderson had jumped out of bounds trying to save the ball and threw it extremely hard at a BYU player. It is a heads up play, but I don't think you have to throw it nearly as hard as he is.

kitic77 wrote:
That was the third time Henderson had jumped out of bounds trying to save the ball and threw it extremely hard at a BYU player. It is a heads up play, but I don't think you have to throw it nearly as hard as he is.

Ya, he started to piss me off, after that 1st one, no need to throw it like, your hitting someone.





Just foreshadows the anger that would come out.

EM_Puma wrote:
What?



Here's part of Jay Drew's blog on talking to Boylen about the incident:



After saying three or four times that Henderson made a mistake, Boylen spent more time talking about a guy from BYU’s bench that he said escalated the situation. The guy he was talking about was Rob Ramos, head athletic trainer for BYU men’s basketball.

After going through the line and shaking all the BYU players’ hands after the game, Boylen made a beeline toward Ramos. He put his hands on either Ramos’ face or shoulders, and said something to the trainer.

In the postgame interview room, here’s what he told us:

“They had somebody come off their bench in a gray suit that was instigating everything. I don’t know what he was doing. But Dave [Rose] was fine. We were fine. Guys were fine.

“You know, there’s good kids on the floor. There’s respectful guys. We were fine. Everything was cool. But somebody came off their bench in a gray suit, and I don’t know what he was doing. I mean, we gotta be the adults.

“You know, I told [Jonathan] Tavernari I would kick his butt after the game, and he laughed. I told Jackson that I would punch him, and he would forget all about [Henderson] punching him. Just trying to calm it down. We got a great rivalry. We got great fans. You know, things happen, but we’re OK.

“Everybody overreacts to everything. Gosh, just keep playing. But you can’t have adults coming in and screwing the thing up. You know, Little League baseball around here.”

Asked if it was a case of boys being boys, Boylen said: “Please dont make a big deal. I know you will, but don’t.”



So Boylen thinks it's Ramos fault?



I'd have to watch the game again, I'm thinking it was in the first half, but once again one of Utah's players was chasing a ball out of bounds that would have gone to BYU. In mid-air he takes the ball and as if he were playing dodgeball, he throws that ball with all of his gusto back at, I believe, Tyler Haws and it ricochets off of Tyler out of bounds. You could see Tyler stand there for a moment with the look on his face, "He didn't just slam me with that ball that hard just trying to get the ball out on me? He stood for a second dazed. Immediately the question came to me, "How fricken hard can they throw a ball at someone to bounce it off of them out of bounds?" Because you could see right away that Haws was taken back by how hard the guy had just hit him with a leather basketball.



When you think about it, are there no rules about throwing a basketball at someone? I've seen this play a thousand times and never until tonight had I remembered seeing another team throw that ball with such force like say, just like I see my Scouts playing dodgeball.



Now I don't want to make this out to be more than it is, but I've seen many a players do this technique, but I just had never seen one doing it like he was trying to hurt the guy. My first reaction when I saw it was, "Hey, isn't intentionally throwing a ball at an opponent and not just trying to knock it out on him."



Believe me, we have Dustin Ryker, the former BYU OLman and Arena Football player in our ward and he hit me in the head with a dodgeball (they're much softer and padded) from about 30 feet and I saw stars, so throwing a BB with the force I saw on that one play and it connects to your head, you easily could have a black eye if not more. I think the concept was in the beginning to glance the ball off the legs of the opponent and get the ball out on them and Utah thinks that means you can heave a ball as hard as you can at any part of an opponents body. I don't think that was ever intended or should be intended to be allowed.



Funny that that thought would come to me in this game for the first time ever and later that would be what caused the Henderson backhand after a BYU player had the same feeling.

Of course Ramos came out on to the court, he's the trainer and his guy just went down. That's what the trainer does. It was a dead ball, this is a non-issue that Boylen is using to deflect his player's misdeeds. I can't see any other BBall Coach in the MWC deflecting the issue like this (except maybe NM's coach, but I doubt it). If I had any respect for Boylen before, it is now gone. I can understand punches being thrown in the middle of an emotional contest, although it shouldn't happen. I cannot understand a grown man, after stepping back to assess the situation, not being able to accept some blame, teach his player and bring some semblence of respect back to his program. Was there ever an apology or concern for Emery? This is Classless and unfortunately too often typical of :utard: .

BYULV wrote:

What?



Here's part of Jay Drew's blog on talking to Boylen about the incident:



After saying three or four times that Henderson made a mistake, Boylen spent more time talking about a guy from BYU’s bench that he said escalated the situation. The guy he was talking about was Rob Ramos, head athletic trainer for BYU men’s basketball.

After going through the line and shaking all the BYU players’ hands after the game, Boylen made a beeline toward Ramos. He put his hands on either Ramos’ face or shoulders, and said something to the trainer.

In the postgame interview room, here’s what he told us:

“They had somebody come off their bench in a gray suit that was instigating everything. I don’t know what he was doing. But Dave [Rose] was fine. We were fine. Guys were fine.

“You know, there’s good kids on the floor. There’s respectful guys. We were fine. Everything was cool. But somebody came off their bench in a gray suit, and I don’t know what he was doing. I mean, we gotta be the adults.

“You know, I told [Jonathan] Tavernari I would kick his butt after the game, and he laughed. I told Jackson that I would punch him, and he would forget all about [Henderson] punching him. Just trying to calm it down. We got a great rivalry. We got great fans. You know, things happen, but we’re OK.

“Everybody overreacts to everything. Gosh, just keep playing. But you can’t have adults coming in and screwing the thing up. You know, Little League baseball around here.”

Asked if it was a case of boys being boys, Boylen said: “Please dont make a big deal. I know you will, but don’t.”



So Boylen thinks it's Ramos fault?



I'd have to watch the game again, I'm thinking it was in the first half, but once again one of Utah's players was chasing a ball out of bounds that would have gone to BYU. In mid-air he takes the ball and as if he were playing dodgeball, he throws that ball with all of his gusto back at, I believe, Tyler Haws and it ricochets off of Tyler out of bounds. You could see Tyler stand there for a moment with the look on his face, "He didn't just slam me with that ball that hard just trying to get the ball out on me? He stood for a second dazed. Immediately the question came to me, "How fricken hard can they throw a ball at someone to bounce it off of them out of bounds?" Because you could see right away that Haws was taken back by how hard the guy had just hit him with a leather basketball.



When you think about it, are there no rules about throwing a basketball at someone? I've seen this play a thousand times and never until tonight had I remembered seeing another team throw that ball with such force like say, just like I see my Scouts playing dodgeball.



Now I don't want to make this out to be more than it is, but I've seen many a players do this technique, but I just had never seen one doing it like he was trying to hurt the guy. My first reaction when I saw it was, "Hey, isn't intentionally throwing a ball at an opponent and not just trying to knock it out on him."



Believe me, we have Dustin Ryker, the former BYU OLman and Arena Football player in our ward and he hit me in the head with a dodgeball (they're much softer and padded) from about 30 feet and I saw stars, so throwing a BB with the force I saw on that one play and it connects to your head, you easily could have a black eye if not more. I think the concept was in the beginning to glance the ball off the legs of the opponent and get the ball out on them and Utah thinks that means you can heave a ball as hard as you can at any part of an opponents body. I don't think that was ever intended or should be intended to be allowed.



Funny that that thought would come to me in this game for the first time ever and later that would be what caused the Henderson backhand after a BYU player had the same feeling.

Of course Ramos came out on to the court, he's the trainer and his guy just went down. That's what the trainer does. It was a dead ball, this is a non-issue that Boylen is using to deflect his player's misdeeds. I can't see any other BBall Coach in the MWC deflecting the issue like this (except maybe NM's coach, but I doubt it). If I had any respect for Boylen before, it is now gone. I can understand punches being thrown in the middle of an emotional contest, although it shouldn't happen. I cannot understand a grown man, after stepping back to assess the situation, not being able to accept some blame, teach his player and bring some semblence of respect back to his program. Was there ever an apology or concern for Emery? This is Classless and unfortunately too often typical of :utard: .

This is right on!! When a player gets a forearm to the face and hits the floor the trainer is supposed to run out onto the court to see if the player needs medical attention!! It's what Ramos gets paid to do! Ramos also ran out to see if the ref was okay when he went down, was Ramos "escalating the situation" by doing that? Boylen is out of control.

EM_Puma wrote:

Believe me, we have Dustin Ryker, the former BYU OLman and Arena Football player in our ward and he hit me in the head with a dodgeball (they're much softer and padded) from about 30 feet and I saw stars, so throwing a BB with the force I saw on that one play and it connects to your head, you easily could have a black eye if not more. I think the concept was in the beginning to glance the ball off the legs of the opponent and get the ball out on them and Utah thinks that means you can heave a ball as hard as you can at any part of an opponents body. I don't think that was ever intended or should be intended to be allowed.

One of my favorite moments of playing church dodge ball in your ward was rocking Dustin in the chest and seeing it just bounce away from him and he had one of those helpless faces. :D Made me smile, but I assure you that guy can throw! and as he said those balls were soft but somehow he made them hurt. I definitely wouldn't want to be hit by a basketball like that...

I just love that Henderson, and then Boylen, proved Max's point. :lol: The :utard:s just continue to prove him right.



My wife sat there and said "that's exactly what you would expect out of a :utard:



:D

BYUROCKS wrote:

That was the third time Henderson had jumped out of bounds trying to save the ball and threw it extremely hard at a BYU player. It is a heads up play, but I don't think you have to throw it nearly as hard as he is.

Ya, he started to piss me off, after that 1st one, no need to throw it like, your hitting someone.





Just foreshadows the anger that would come out.

The problem with this one is that a blocking foul had already been called on Emery and the whistle had already been blown, Henderson just threw the ball because he's a childish punk and thought he could get away with it (which he did, he only got in trouble for the forearm).

EM_Puma wrote:
To me there is nothing worse than when you do something and then say, "...but so-and-so did whatever" as your defense of what you or someone else did. Doesn't have anything to do with what happened.



bigutefan - 1/30/2010 10:25:00 PM

Congrats on the win. Do we need to get out the YouTube video of Chris Miles as a freshmen kicking Andrew Bogut in the head after a play was over with Bogut laying on the ground. As usual, get off your high horses Yners. Your just as guilty of stuff as anybody. Henderson is not even looking when he throws his arm, not saying it was right, but I am not sure he knew how close the player was to him. Chris Miles kicked Andrew Bogut in the head when he was a freshmen......how easy you all forget. FIRE BOYLEN! GO UTES!

This quote is awesome. I couldn't remember this incident so i looked it up. A) Bogut does NOT get kicked in the head.b) Bogut does get kicked, but it's in the back, and I seriously doubt he even bruises from it. c) The original poster fails to mention that Bogut swung from the basket on a dunk until he was right on top of Miles and then literally falls on Miles slamming him to the ground from behind. Miles shouldn't have kicked, but that was a body slam all the way. If you look at the two kicks, it was Bogut who did the most damage.



Just sayin. A FEW details missing from that description

Still an overreaction by Miles. Both that and the Henderson swing are/were inappropriate. I don't remember if Miles apologized, but I hope he did. While both incidents are similar one glaring difference is kicking someone in the back with the bottom of your foot with very little wind up is very different than taking a swipe at someone's head/face. Both uncalled for acts of violence.

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Maaaarrrrshallll! I hear you're going to have a day off! Why don't you come and show me what a real man you are? XOXOXOXO Oh please, say you will Marshmallow! I know you have my number.

Yep, Miles overreacted, but the kick was something that two brothers would do during a wrestling match, it wasn't like a punch to the face. Either way, it doesn't excuse what Henderson did and we shouldn't condone either one. Stuff like this simply needs to stop, you gotta keep your head and just play the game.

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BoiseBYU wrote:

EM_Puma wrote:
To me there is nothing worse than when you do something and then say, "...but so-and-so did whatever."



bigutefan - 1/30/2010 10:25:00 PM

Congrats on the win. Do we need to get out the YouTube video of Chris Miles as a freshmen kicking Andrew Bogut in the head after a play was over with Bogut laying on the ground. As usual, get off your high horses Yners. Your just as guilty of stuff as anybody. Henderson is not even looking when he throws his arm, not saying it was right, but I am not sure he knew how close the player was to him. Chris Miles kicked Andrew Bogut in the head when he was a freshmen......how easy you all forget. FIRE BOYLEN! GO UTES!



You know someone is lacking when they have to go point out something like that and now just deal with this issue. What does what Miles did five years ago have to do with what Henderson did. I'm not convinced he was knowingly swing to hit Jackson in the face, but he's accountable for being stupid in this case and it has nothing to do with whatever happened five years ago.

Didn't Miles break his foot kicking Bogut in the head? ;)

And wasn't it the consensus that it improved Bogut's looks? ;)

How many kicks would it have taken to improve Nevills looks?

Da*n it, Jim, I'm a doctor not a philosopher

I know the Utes have a quite a pedigree of lookers, but Frost from a few years back defintely takes the cake...



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1 game suspension huh? That's the best they could do?

I was at the game when Miles kicked Bogut, I remember it clearly being in the back and it was something that Bogut initiated, as has been stated here. If some dude falls on one of my players, as a coach I'd take a T for the kick in the back. If for nothing else than to send a statement that we aren't going to back down to crap like that.



I wonder what Emery was doing to get Henderson so riled up? Was his D just too tight? Or was Henderson just losing control because as he said "sometimes I do stupid things".

Neither reaction - by Miles or Henderson - is warranted. Miles' is a little more understandable btu it was still wrong. What's interesting is the aftermath.



Miles basically waited for Bogut outside the lockerroom following the game and walked with him out of the Marriott Center to the team bus to apologize. Bogut hadn't even left the building before Miles apologized.



Henderson didn't even wait for his team to head for the bus. I still haven't heard if Marshall has apologized to Emery.

nogbody wrote:
I know the Utes have a quite a pedigree of lookers, but Frost from a few years back defintely takes the cake...



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Makes me think we need a "Look-alike Thread" for basketball. This guy looks like an ugly version of Geoffrey Rush.

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What will happen to Henderson? It's sad really...http://thepasseys.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ute-fan.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">