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2019/20 Quadrant Wins/Losses

by byufan4ever · 11/21/2019

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byufan4ever
I'm using KenPom ratings which are not the official rankings for the teams.


BYU Basketball Quadrants 2019-11-21.PNG
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Gunk
That was a bad loss Wed. A bad loss.
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BYULV
Funny how St Mary's changes from a Tier 1 game first time around to a Tier 2 game later on in the schedule. Is that just a typo or do they drop after losing to us? :lol:
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byufan4ever
BYULV wrote:

Funny how St Mary's changes from a Tier 1 game first time around to a Tier 2 game later on in the schedule. Is that just a typo or do they drop after losing to us? :lol:


That is because of the home/away difference. The Tiers or Quadrants go like this:



Quadrant | Home | Neutral | Away

1 | 1-30 | 1-50 | 1-75

2 | 31-75| 51-100 | 76-135

3 | 76-160 | 101-200 | 136-240

4 | 161+ | 201+ | 241+



So the first Saint Mary's game is an away game so at #35 they are tier 1 but when we play them at home #35 is only good enough for a tier 2.
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BYULV
Dang, they have thought of everything. Now I feel dumb.



But SMC is playing themselves out of tier 1 and maybe even tier 2 at the present.
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byufan4ever
Here is an updated view of our tourney profile. The Maui tournament gave us wins against quadrant 3 and 2 teams and a loss against a quadrant 1 team.


BYU Bball Quadrant Profile 2019-12-01.PNG
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Gunk
Those losses against BSU and SDSU could come back to really hurt us.



We need a win against USU and SMC. Can't drop anymore 2s.
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byufan4ever
Here is an updated profile that I took from http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2020/schedule/BYU:


BYU Bball Quadrant Profile 2019-12-16.PNG

Goin off of the NET Quadrant records I think we are looking ok. I know RPI doesn't mean as much anymore but hey we are #19 in that and have the #4 SOS. If we can split Gonzaga and St. Mary's going 2-2 and have maybe 1 other conference loss I think we can stand a chance as an at large bid.
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EM_Puma
I don't understand still why Lunardi's latest projection still has us as a 12 in a play-in game. I asked this before, but do we have a sign on our back that says "please let us play in a play-in game"? I just don't understand it because in that same projected slate, it has USU, who we beat Saturday, as an #8 seed.
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EM_Puma
Honestly, I still don't understand how you have teams ranked higher than a 15-16, and have them involved in ANY play-in game. If they have a worse ranking, then they should be in the play-in game. I guess I'm just too logical and I don't do stupid very well.
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EM_Puma
Lunardi is crazier than I thought as he also has SMC at a 10, 2 slots behind USU, who they also beat. Lunardi has Dairy-Ute love or something.
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Gunk
Remember, there is always the BYU bias. Take what seeding we deserve and add two. Right now, yeah, I'd say we'd be about a 10 compared to say Utah State which would be an 8. Add two and that puts us at 12.



Committee doesn't like our no-play-on-Sunday rule and that bias seems to have just been adopted when projecting BYU.



We get a run going and I suspect it will change. Beat Gonzaga and SMC and we'll turn some heads.
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